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  • #31
    Teddy is absolutely right. .. I still give it Canelo but it was very close. Dhoya obviously paid that ref just as he paid that one judge who called it a draw between Mayweather v Canelo

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Scott Weiland View Post
      One thing ? Mmmmm......... Where to start !

      Canelo terrified Lara,terrified as in the literal meaning of the word.his whole demeanour had the look of a man who clearly didnt want to be in the ring with an opponent like Canelo,once the shots started landing,amd when Lara's own punches were having zero effect on slowing his tougher amd stronger opponent.

      For all Lara's talk before the fight,he was shook once he felt the power of his opponent.Lara could not subdue Canelo with anyhting in his arsenal.Canelo simply broke his heart and willingness to fight.any unbiased fan would recognise this.

      How can you cut off a ring against a guy who is determined to avoid physical confrontation at all costs ? All you can do is make the most of the shots you do land,which Canelo clearly was doing.Lara had the look of a man who wished he was anywhere else but in squared ring with the Mexican.what we witnessed from Lara was full on retreat,it was one of the most negative performances I have seen this year,and if you enjoyed that then frankly I don't know what to say.
      This guy is Puto troll. He wish he had Canelo red sausage in his mouth

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      • #33
        OMG the amount of salty fight fans in here is absolutely hilarious.."canelo was punching thin air"..."lara never ran". LMAO. I may have to make some video edits and disprove a ton of these imbecilic arguments. There was a point in the fight where even the announcers were like damn he's running for his life on boxnation. The dude went around the ring a full two times after taking a body shot didn't throw one punch for a good 30 seconds and the punches he threw after that were pawing at the air to try and keep canelo off him.

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        • #34
          It doesn't matter Teddy, the right guy still won the fight.

          It's not impossible to imagine that a ref couldn't be "impartial" to all that running, where he is not even attempting to throw a lot of punches while on the back foot.

          It's almost like where the politically correct crowd wants the Cops to do their job but not "racially profile" when on the lookout for criminals. Yes, lets ignore the pants sagging, thug looking suspect and treat him the same as the suit and tie wearing guy across the street. No difference right, "be impartial".

          Maybe this ref just couldn't do that and gave Canelo lots of rounds by default as Lara wasn't "schooling" or "dominating" definitively in any of the rounds.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Cupo303 View Post
            It doesn't matter Teddy, the right guy still won the fight.

            It's not impossible to imagine that a ref couldn't be "impartial" to all that running, where he is not even attempting to throw a lot of punches while on the back foot.

            It's almost like where the politically correct crowd wants the Cops to do their job but not "racially profile" when on the lookout for criminals. Yes, lets ignore the pants sagging, thug looking suspect and treat him the same as the suit and tie wearing guy across the street. No difference right, "be impartial".

            Maybe this ref just couldn't do that and gave Canelo lots of rounds by default as Lara wasn't "schooling" or "dominating" definitively in any of the rounds.
            I wish people stop saying this, knowing Canelo didn't do enough to earn the win he was gifted.

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            • #36
              All I have to say is me being Hispanic I look at boxing totally different. And I think ALOT of Hispanics/latinos do also then the rest of the world. To me the guy coming forward pressing the fight, looking for the fight is the one winning the rounds. I mean if the other guy is not doing anything to stop you from coming forward, then he's really not scaring you or stopping you from trying to attack. then how are you losing the fight? IF you're in the street and you keep coming forward and not taking any damage, I don't think you're losing the fight in anybody's eyes right? So maybe with a last name like Martinez. Maybe that's why he scored the fight the way he did. When I scored the fight the first time I had it 9-3 for Canelo. Watching it a 3rd time I had it 7-5 for Canelo. So ya the RIGHT GUY WON PERIOD

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Freedom2014
                ESPN's boxing ratings would improve if they replaced Teddy Atlas with somebody sane.
                I have sat and watched a fight that Teddy has scored and it left me scratching and shaking my head. I at first thought that it was bad dandruff but then I realized that Teddy really is a whack job. He always seems to lean towards the fighter that is supposed to win regardless of what has actually happened in the ring.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Mr. Punch-Out!! View Post
                  I wish people stop saying this, knowing Canelo didn't do enough to earn the win he was gifted.
                  Of course he did enough. Take the ref's out of the picture for a second and pretend that this isn't a contest where you try to win and/or lose. Lets make it analogous to a heated scuffle outside of a bar. Two guys talking smack to each other and then one guy decides to attack with the intention of knocking the other guys head off, while the other **** talker is just backing up trying to survive.

                  Now to the casual eye, this would look like the guy who pressed and attacked got the better of the exchange even though it's not a competition. Maybe it wouldn't look this way if the other guy had no intention of fighting but got attacked anyway by the aggressive drunk, but they both talked like they were about to fight.

                  Lara didn't do enough to even come close to the vacinity of WINNING, never mind what Canelo did or didn't do. He at least tried to make something happen out of nothing. It's a waste of time trying to micro analyze the round by round scorecard. I understand the moderate position that it was a "close fight" and could of gone either way, citing the compubox as evidence, but it's irrelevant. Lara showed what YOU DON'T DO in a high profile fight because it won't even get you the win, yet alone the fan adoration that you need to keep selling tickets and get TV dates.

                  If you're going to be a "Pure Boxer" of sorts, you better be sure that your style and execution produces a DOMINANT PERFORMANCE that cannot be disputed by anyone. I.E. Bernard Hopkins at his best schooling Tito, Tarver, Pavlik etc,. Floyd schooling Gatti, Corrales, Canelo, Mosley etc,. Or Wladimir Klitschko - who a lot of people don't like for the way he fights. Yet can you ever dispute that he is winning EVERY SINGLE round in a fight. Can even the biggest hater say that he is not doing enough in rounds X, and Z and should lose the decision? Pure boxing better produce you 120-109 type of performances because if you're gonna keep 115-113-ing it, then maybe it's time to sack up and just FIGHT since your "pure boxing" isn't giving you the pure decision wins that you're looking for. And rather then complaining like some jaded Rapper who is pissed at mainstream Hip-hop artists for selling more records, step up and change your ways.
                  Last edited by cupocity303; 07-19-2014, 08:03 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by SeekDaGreat View Post
                    Big Canelo fan, I felt like Lara won 7-5 or a draw AT BEST for Canelo. I could possibly see it scored 7-5 Canelo as a few rounds were swing rounds. I remember being worried after the final bell.

                    Of course, I only watched the fight once. And intoxicated.
                    Didn't u call me a Canelo hater or something for basically saying the same thing u just said?? Except for that big time Canelo fan stuff Ofcourse. Lol I've been saying this since last Sunday bro.
                    Last edited by Bigg Rigg; 07-19-2014, 09:17 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Cupo303 View Post
                      Of course he did enough. Take the ref's out of the picture for a second and pretend that this isn't a contest where you try to win and/or lose. Lets make it analogous to a heated scuffle outside of a bar. Two guys talking smack to each other and then one guy decides to attack with the intention of knocking the other guys head off, while the other **** talker is just backing up trying to survive.

                      Now to the casual eye, this would look like the guy who pressed and attacked got the better of the exchange even though it's not a competition. Maybe it wouldn't look this way if the other guy had no intention of fighting but got attacked anyway by the aggressive drunk, but they both talked like they were about to fight.

                      Lara didn't do enough to even come close to the vacinity of WINNING, never mind what Canelo did or didn't do. He at least tried to make something happen out of nothing. It's a waste of time trying to micro analyze the round by round scorecard. I understand the moderate position that it was a "close fight" and could of gone either way, citing the compubox as evidence, but it's irrelevant. Lara showed what YOU DON'T DO in a high profile fight because it won't even get you the win, yet alone the fan adoration that you need to keep selling tickets and get TV dates.

                      If you're going to be a "Pure Boxer" of sorts, you better be sure that your style and execution produces a DOMINANT PERFORMANCE that cannot be disputed by anyone. I.E. Bernard Hopkins at his best schooling Tito, Tarver, Pavlik etc,. Floyd schooling Gatti, Corrales, Canelo, Mosley etc,. Or Wladimir Klitschko - who a lot of people don't like for the way he fights. Yet can you ever dispute that he is winning EVERY SINGLE round in a fight. Can even the biggest hater say that he is not doing enough in rounds X, and Z and should lose the decision? Pure boxing better produce you 120-109 type of performances because if you're gonna keep 115-113-ing it, then maybe it's time to sack up and just FIGHT since your "pure boxing" isn't giving you the pure decision wins that you're looking for. And rather then complaining like some jaded Rapper who is pissed at mainstream Hip-hop artists for selling more records, step up and change your ways.
                      nah man we would be looking at Alvarez like damm it sucks to be that guy getting punched on the face and not being able to hit the other guy back himself .. lets not act like Lara did nothing ..I still give the fight to alvarez due to the running i cant stand that sh 1t .. back to the bar scene i would be rooting for the guy to pick up a chair or just pull out a gun and get rid of the runner

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