Would Boxing be Dead after Mayweather and Pacquiao retires?

[orechia]

There's no one organisation trying to grow boxing (like the UFC). Instead, they have 2 organisations (TR and GB; or TR and Al Haymon) trying to bring down the other. Because of this divide, we get bogus decisions, way too many PPV fights, and fights that the fans dont want.

That is why MMA/UFC is taking over. It's much, much bigger than just Manny and Floyd.

Wow....If you think UFC is growing you might want to look at there PPV buys. The are the fastest declining sport in America. Some of there PPV's have barely even got 100K buys this year.

[VG_Addict]

Look at this:

http://lastwordonsports.com/2014/06/23/dear-dana-ufc-pay-per-view-numbers-declining/

According to this article, THREE UFC events this year have done under 250k buys.

[soul_survivor]

Fact is, boxing has been in a steady decline from main stream attention and global fascination for 30 years now. After Ali, only Tyson really crossed the divide between sport and pop culture on a global scale.

But there are always fighters who create headlines in the sport and on a national level, SRL in the US in the 80s, DLH and Oscar in the US in the 90s and Eubank, Benn, Bruno in the UK. The last 14 years has seen Pacquiao and Floyd, to a lesser extent DLH too. The Klits are giant cross over stars in the Ukraine and Germany.

Now in the UK there's Froch, following in the footsteps of Hatton and Naz, Groves possibly, Degale maybe and most definitely Khan, Joshua is a great one for the future.

in the US.South American markets, Canelo is looking strong and GGG/Kovalev are only a win or two away from being big names.

Things ain't so bad

[Masters01]

Wow....If you think UFC is growing you might want to look at there PPV buys. The are the fastest declining sport in America. Some of there PPV's have barely even got 100K buys this year.

ONE of their PPV this year got around 100k, but yes they have declined this year and the year before last. It's worth noting that they have lost their two biggest PPV stars lately to injury (anderson silva and GSP). Now they just have Rousey and Jon Jones. It'd be like taking away Manny and Floyd from PPV and leaving just Cotto and Canelo. The numbers will be roughly the same.

[orechia]

169: 220K
170: 340K
171: 300K
172: 350K
173: 200K
174: 100K

Average 251K PPV buys per show. Yea it sure is growing! Moron.

[Masters01]

169: 220K
170: 340K
171: 300K
172: 350K
173: 200K
174: 100K

Average 251K PPV buys per show. Yea it sure is growing! Moron.

These are numbers excluding the two biggest stars of MMA. Let's take the two biggest stars out of boxing for 2014 and the biggest numbers are:

Cotto v Martinez = 315k
Alverez v Angulo = 350k

About the same, ******. And the UFC would make more money because in boxing the money is split roughly in half between two companies (TR and GB).

[bigsmoothh]

no it would still be the same.

[Ruthless One]

When Pac and Mayweather retire, there will be a resurgence in boxing. Time to let the new dogs play.

[al-Xander]

169: 220K
170: 340K
171: 300K
172: 350K
173: 200K
174: 100K

Average 251K PPV buys per show. Yea it sure is growing! Moron.

Those are not bad numbers. MMA fights are almost seen on a weekly basis, which make their fans happy. Fighters don't have guarantees amounting to millions. In other words, the cost of producing them is not as costly as in boxing.

PPV numbers in boxing don't paint a complete picture. Take a guy like Mayweather who demands $32 million guarantee per fight, is promoted heavily, is supported with expensive undercards, etc. What's left is there for the networks and promoters? Math says they're not making much.

As a result, we're seeing Haymon fighters fighting tomato cans because that's what Showtime can only afford to make.

[VG_Addict]

These are numbers excluding the two biggest stars of MMA. Let's take the two biggest stars out of boxing for 2014 and the biggest numbers are:

Cotto v Martinez = 315k
Alverez v Angulo = 350k

About the same, ******. And the UFC would make more money because in boxing the money is split roughly in half between two companies (TR and GB).

Mayweather-Canelo had 2.2 million buys. Tell me what UFC events have had even half that much.

It's OK, I can wait.

There are still plenty of big fights to make in boxing, like Wilder-Fury and Canelo-Cotto.

Canelo-Cotto alone would destroy any UFC event in PPV buys.