Evander Holyfield -- Who Hit Me the Hardest?? That's Easy ...

[M Bison]

You would think the evidence would point to Bowe...

I have heard the most convincing testimony from that guy who claimed he fought all the great recent HW's.

He argues some hit harder like WK and Lennox, but he did say that Foreman was the fighter who'se punches contained the most force in the sense that they screwed with his equilibrium the most and put him off balance.

I'd agree from a spectator view.

I think Foreman was among the "strongest" punchers but not necessarily the one with the most pop.

That's why Foreman normally took multiple KD's to stop his opponents and they usually always got up.

Great post, very true everything you've brought up but...
be prepared to be trolled for saying it regardless.

[DLT]

Just because Bowe hurt Holy bad doesnt mean he was the hardest puncher. Bowe landed a lot more punches on Evander than Foreman did.

[LacedUp]

This is one of the most pointless questions you can ever ask a boxer, because you'll never get the correct answer. This should only be asked to boxers who have never been KO'd. A boxer that has been KO'd/TKO'd is likely not going to be able to remember the feeling of a knockout punch being that they were hit so hard that they were seperated from their senses.

The correct answer is BOWE. He basically stopped Holyfield with one shot.

No he didn't. And you research the whole situation first - I.e. Holyfield was a sick man going into the ring. Rather than the actual punching power of Bowe, who had just been floored heavily in the round before I believe, Holyfield was dealing with sickness that caused his energy levels to go up and down constantly.

It was more exhaustion than anything else.

You would think the evidence would point to Bowe...

I have heard the most convincing testimony from that guy who claimed he fought all the great recent HW's.

He argues some hit harder like WK and Lennox, but he did say that Foreman was the fighter who'se punches contained the most force in the sense that they screwed with his equilibrium the most and put him off balance.

I'd agree from a spectator view.

I think Foreman was among the "strongest" punchers but not necessarily the one with the most pop.

That's why Foreman normally took multiple KD's to stop his opponents and they usually always got up.

Who?

Obviously Foreman's punches were not as sharp or crisp as someone like Wlad's and Lennox's but the sheer force they were thrown with would make his opponent stand there in disbelief over how hard this man actually punched them. You can see Foreman moving the entire body of another man by throwing a body punch. He was an awesome puncher.

With regards to the multiple KDs, the same can be said for Wlad, Lennox, Vitali etc.

Leapai down 3 times, Pianeta down 2-3 times?, Povetkin multiple times, Mormeck twice etc.

Same with Lennox like Briggs down 3-4 times, Grant down 2-3 times, Tyson twice etc-

I don't see much difference there. All of them have plenty of 1 punch KOs as well as KOs that took multiple KDs.

[Rustle Wilson]

No he didn't. And you research the whole situation first - I.e. Holyfield was a sick man going into the ring
. Rather than the actual punching power of Bowe, who had just been floored heavily in the round before I believe, Holyfield was dealing with sickness that caused his energy levels to go up and down constantly.

It was more exhaustion than anything else.

False.

He wouldn't have been cleared to fight if that was the case. He was given a clean bill of health at the time of the 3rd Bowe fight. Your mixing up that fight with the 1st Moorer fight. And if you're talking about the hep A thing, it's never been confirmed that he actually had hep A.

Besides, the KO in that fight was CLEARLY not a fatigue driven KO.

And what about the 1st fight when Bowe's uppercuts had Holyfield stumbling all over the ring? I seem to recall both Tyson & Lewis landing their uppercuts pretty flush (Lewis several times) and never having Holy in the type of trouble he was against Bowe when he landed his.

[M Bison]

He thuds his punches in with a lot of raw force there isn't much velocity behind nor the same snap you'd see off of a Morrison type of left-hook but perhaps its more of an accumulating type of damage coming off from it especially If you allow him to tee off on you he is bound to send you to the canvas If he is thudding hook from one side of the head to the other you're obviously going to be disambiguated from that and be sent to the canvas.



Take your pick what would you rather have happen to you?



There is a good chance you wont wake up from taking that type of shot Morrison throws at you whilst you're more likely to keep the lights on with Foremans.

Perhaps Foreman has the most hurtful punches because you remain conscious throughout taking the beating he gives you but I have no doubt Morrison overall has more power the sheer fact a not so big a guy like Frazier kept getting back up to his feet from Foremans beating when Frazier in the past was downed by lesser men makes me more than comfortable to say Foreman isn't the biggest puncher of the heavyweights ever.

[MrRolltide91]

Im not surprised

[paulf]

All fighters talk up guys they looked good against or defeated as their best, hardest hitting, "most dangerous" opponents, while never mentioning the guys that beat the brakes of off 'em.

[M Bison]

All fighters talk up guys they looked good against or defeated as their best, hardest hitting, "most dangerous" opponents, while never mentioning the guys that beat the brakes of off 'em.

Probably is the case who would want to remember being absolutely flattened when you were in your prime.

[LacedUp]

False.

He wouldn't have been cleared to fight if that was the case. He was given a clean bill of health at the time of the 3rd Bowe fight. Your mixing up that fight with the 1st Moorer fight. And if you're talking about the hep A thing, it's never been confirmed that he actually had hep A.

Besides, the KO in that fight was CLEARLY not a fatigue driven KO.

And what about the 1st fight when Bowe's uppercuts had Holyfield stumbling all over the ring? I seem to recall both Tyson & Lewis landing their uppercuts pretty flush (Lewis several times) and never having Holy in the type of trouble he was against Bowe when he landed his.

No i'm not. The two sicknesses had nothing to do with each other.

***8220;Then my next fight, I lost against Rid**** Bowe. I was sick before the fight, but I was getting paid nine million dollars, and it was all about the money. I said, ***8216;Now, if I pull out of this fight, I may not get the nine million. So let me go on in there.***8217; And this prophet came, and this is what he said: He didn***8217;t say, ***8216;You***8217;re gonna win.***8217; What he said was, ***8216;This fight is for you to win, if you do the proper thing.***8217; He said, ***8216;You***8217;re gonna knock this boy down in the sixth.***8217;***8221; And then he said, ***8216;If you stay on him, you***8217;ll win the fight. Now don***8217;t change your mind.***8217; Anyway, I started laughing because this is only common sense***8212;if you knock the guy down, get on him. That***8217;s just nature***8212;get on him! Now I***8217;m sick, though; I had got the hepatitis. But like I said, I had decided to fight anyway, and in the first round I looked so good. But come the second round, I didn***8217;t have no energy, and this guy was pounding me all around. Every time he hit me in the stomach it hurt so bad, but I took it all because I was looking forward to the sixth round! And when the sixth came, God said to me, ***8216;This is the round.***8217; The bell went ding! And I come out,shoo! Shoo! Shoo!, hit him with a left hook, and bam!***8212;knocked him down! And I thought the fight was going to be over! The guy barely got back up, but I stepped back then, and felt tired, and I didn***8217;t get on him. And the next round, he hit me with a good shot and the referee stopped the fight. Just like that***8212;I couldn***8217;t do nothing! I came out of the ring, and I said, ***8216;Well, hot dog, that***8217;s what the man said was going to happen, too.***8217; - Evander Holyfield.

It's been confirmed alright. From the horses mouth. Holyfield is not really the type to make excuses anyway.

We're not talking about Tyson and Lewis, we're talking about Foreman and Bowe. A man can be caught with a shot when he's off guard or doesn't see it coming - that doesn't mean it's as powerful as someone elses.

If Holyfield says Foreman hit him hardest, I'm inclined to believe him over you.

[IronDanHamza]

He said the same when I met him last year.

He said when Foreman hit him he felt like his teeth came out and he couldn't feel his face momentarily.