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  • Bronx2245
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    #191
    Originally posted by dibzvincent143
    If i havent forgotten, pac sent koncz to mayweathers gym when his contract with arum at that time ended. That was just a starting negotiation for team pac for more serious talks, mayweather wrapped it instantly and said "forty million" or nothing on the spot. He said hes gonna wire the 20 million in advance at that same day. Ofcourse pacquiao didnt consider it, so did mayweather in the first place. Anyway, i believe pacs counter offer was fair at that time and reasonable if mayweathers thinks hes really gonna win. Its fair to say arum didnt want the fight, not before not now. But pac wants the fight, before and now. Especially at the time when he had a subpar performance against jmm 3. He hold a pressconference just to announce he wants floyd. Its all about seeing along the lines, its clear as day who wants it and who doesnt. Floyd often says "at the end of the day, floyd mayweather has to be happy".
    "Its fair to say arum didnt want the fight, not before not now. But pac wants the fight, before and now."

    I hear this kinda talk all the time. Arum don't want it, but manny wants it, but Manny re-signs with Arum. Koncz says it won't be Algeri, Arum says it will, and now it will be Algeri. Floyd can't negotiate with Koncz, and he tried that. Arum runs Manny, and Manny is happy with that, maybe so he can pass the blame to Arum.

    "Anyway, i believe pacs counter offer was fair at that time and reasonable if mayweathers thinks hes really gonna win."

    I'm glad you used the word counter-offer. That's the answer to my initial question. Floyd has made the offers...twice. Pac has said no...twice. If you think 50/50, or 40/40 is a fair offer to the biggest draw, P4P, best fighter on the planet, then why is 50/50, or 40/40, not a fair offer to make to JMM who actually has 1 draw, and 1 KO against Manny already. Last but not least, maybe this article may help you with the money split issue:

    "Although the documents do not disclose revenue also generated from pay-per-view upside, it's extremely doubtful that Pacquiao is getting significantly more than Mayweather in that department, especially considering that they both do similar numbers and in Pacquiao's case, Top Rank retains 27.5%. While I personally believe the subject of a 50/50 split is irrelevant, mainly because Bob Arum was never interested in staging the fight on May 5 to begin with, given those numbers, it's understandable why Mayweather might allegedly inform Pacquiao that a $40 million guarantee would be significantly more money than he's been currently making."

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    • TLC8
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      #192
      Perfect Floyd! Appreciate U Recognizing MEDIA Kept U Relevant Because It Wasn't You

      Floyd just being the weasel he's always been and his stories never match up. Pacquiao still has a Marquez problem but before Marquez 4, Floyd still wouldn't fight Manny. Before Tim Bradley 1, Floyd still wouldn't fight Manny. Floyd could have claimed Maidana had a Devon Alexander problem; an Amir Khan problem... What's the difference you uneducated weasel??? Arum was right a long time ago about Floyd. Once you agree to a condition, or a demand, or a requirement of Floyd's, Floyd will have another, and another, and it's never ending, so why bother with Floyd. Never a more true statement. Manny has been trying to get ONE rematch with Marquez but he won't fight. He asks for $20m, which means he don't want to fight. Marquez HAD to have the '47 title; he just won't fight Manny for it, because he knows his Hail Mary lady fight was a fluke, and as hard as Marquez trained for that fight, he was out of gas by Rd 5, just knocked down, bloodied, and he can't train any harder for a 5th fight. So just another duck, a stall tactic from Floyd. Mayweather & Klan are weasels. They know there is too much risk fighting Manny. Thanks Media for keeping Floyd relevant for 18 yrs, because He's not. It's funny how Floyd is always talking about giving the fans what they want. "I stood toe to toe with Maidana to give the fans what they want." "I gave Maidana a rematch because that's what the fans want".... Of course the fans been calling for him to fight Pacquiao for more than 5 years, but Floyd's theology doesn't work there, giving the fans what they want. Floyd is gutless.
      Last edited by TLC8; 07-17-2014, 09:07 AM.

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      • carloscruz10009
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        #193
        Originally posted by gbonafide
        Poor Carlos is shook. He's breaking out the KO. Must be hard goddamn work defending a classless hood rat who most always takes the easier softer way. You can't buy legacy with those Showtime dollars. You can take the rat out the hood but not the hood out the rat.
        Not shook at all... doubt Floyd is scared... and Im actually not defending him.. my boy Cotto got in the ring with him.... hey if him & Floyd don't fight.. that's on them BOTH... they both deserve blame if you ask me... Floyd is classless... never said he had class either... I am just responding to a post about someone being scared.

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          #194
          Originally posted by Bronx2245
          Sounds good, but the point is Manny turned down random testing. He asked for a 30 day window, then tried to re-negotiate the testing window. Why would a person ask for a window at all? It's only a teaspoon of blood, and your opponent is doing it too. Cotto, and Canelo did it. Why not Manny? do you have any reference for Manny's offer of daily urine testing? I'd like to read that article.
          Good post Bronx.... nobody was failing tests before Floyd made a big deal about it.... funny how he had a million excuses about not wanting to take the tests.. how about this post? Where Teddy Atlas said on Espn that Team Pacquiao didn't want the media to know if he did fail a test.. once again.. I am posting links for people who think I am making up stuff.....

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          • carloscruz10009
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            #195
            Originally posted by Evol
            do u understand that this fight will do well over $40+ mil? if manny was to take that deal arum will be out of the picture. arum will not be involved in promoting this fight. u dont think arum will want a piece of the pie? if arum promote he will get all the money from the gate, ppv, etc, or if he co-promote that will give him split of the gate money, ppv money, etc. now why would pac take that $40mil deal with nothing else no ppv nothing and why would arum allow pac to do that when arum will be left out of it LOL.
            Very true... and I don't disagree with you.... that's one of the reasons that this fight hasn't happened.

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            • richardt
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              #196
              Originally posted by thuggery
              The guy reeks of insecurity.
              Floyd's paranoia and insecurity are rampant. He exhibits those traits along with his incurable ******ity with just about everything he says. Sad, for such a brilliant boxer. He must have left his childhood somewhere along life's path and never got to live it.

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              • carloscruz10009
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                #197
                Originally posted by Bronx2245
                "Its fair to say arum didnt want the fight, not before not now. But pac wants the fight, before and now."

                I hear this kinda talk all the time. Arum don't want it, but manny wants it, but Manny re-signs with Arum. Koncz says it won't be Algeri, Arum says it will, and now it will be Algeri. Floyd can't negotiate with Koncz, and he tried that. Arum runs Manny, and Manny is happy with that, maybe so he can pass the blame to Arum.

                "Anyway, i believe pacs counter offer was fair at that time and reasonable if mayweathers thinks hes really gonna win."

                I'm glad you used the word counter-offer. That's the answer to my initial question. Floyd has made the offers...twice. Pac has said no...twice. If you think 50/50, or 40/40 is a fair offer to the biggest draw, P4P, best fighter on the planet, then why is 50/50, or 40/40, not a fair offer to make to JMM who actually has 1 draw, and 1 KO against Manny already. Last but not least, maybe this article may help you with the money split issue:

                "Although the documents do not disclose revenue also generated from pay-per-view upside, it's extremely doubtful that Pacquiao is getting significantly more than Mayweather in that department, especially considering that they both do similar numbers and in Pacquiao's case, Top Rank retains 27.5%. While I personally believe the subject of a 50/50 split is irrelevant, mainly because Bob Arum was never interested in staging the fight on May 5 to begin with, given those numbers, it's understandable why Mayweather might allegedly inform Pacquiao that a $40 million guarantee would be significantly more money than he's been currently making."

                http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11628.html
                Bronx.... some people don't get that Arum is taking almost a 1/3 of his check.... so $40 million would probably be double his top payday.... they don't get it.

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                • Bronx2245
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by carloscruz10009
                  Good post Bronx.... nobody was failing tests before Floyd made a big deal about it.... funny how he had a million excuses about not wanting to take the tests.. how about this post? Where Teddy Atlas said on Espn that Team Pacquiao didn't want the media to know if he did fail a test.. once again.. I am posting links for people who think I am making up stuff.....

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yrJgt5hPxU
                  I'm a humble man, and now I must give a bow to you, Mr. Cruz. That video is straight fire! E-mails asking "what if he does test positive, what's the penalty?" That's bananas! I was laughing at Freddie, "he'll never fight Mosely...he's been ducking him forever...who is a fighter to dictate what tests are being done...who's he gonna fight?" That was hilarious, when looking back. Now Manny is asking for testing, and who is he fighting...Chris Algeri! LMAO! Good look son...ONE!

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                  • gbonafide
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                    #199
                    Originally posted by carloscruz10009
                    Not shook at all... doubt Floyd is scared... and Im actually not defending him.. my boy Cotto got in the ring with him.... hey if him & Floyd don't fight.. that's on them BOTH... they both deserve blame if you ask me... Floyd is classless... never said he had class either... I am just responding to a post about someone being scared.
                    scared or not it is abundantly clear that he does not want it. But the cool thing is even the most casual of fans understand the score. They ask why doesn't he want to fight Pacquiao? And the answer to that is a never ending moving target. I think his "big" news for May is going after Miguel's MW strap. He sure wouldn't attempt going Gennady's. I hope Miguel batters the fcuk out of him this time.

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                    • HeroBando
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by carloscruz10009
                      Bronx.... some people don't get that Arum is taking almost a 1/3 of his check.... so $40 million would probably be double his top payday.... they don't get it.
                      Still peddling this garbage, tsk tsk. Hope someone is paying you for this dirty work

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