Comments Thread For: What is Al Haymon Planning?

[King_]

If the offer makes sense I don't see why not. The objective is to make money. And Top Rank had options on Provo and I'm sure they would have with Gamboa if he was victorious. So technically, Provo vs. any Top Rank fighter is an in-house fight.



But you don't mention Garcia/Matthysse or Broner/Maidana.



Like Top Rank has? The smaller promoters they work with are tied to Top Rank/HBO as well. Provodnikov had options.



We had Donaire/Mares before that. What's changed?



When has this ever happened?



We weren't getting them regardless when Haymon wasn't even involved...like Donaire/Mares.




It's a fact that Arum was telling fighter to leave their companies to fight his fighters and if they won then Top Rank would have options on them.




The article says he has plans in place to put them on. And the Duva lawsuit won't amount to ****.



Haymon helps fighters. King screwed them. Big difference.

Mattysee and Maidana signed with Haymon afterward. So for Kovalev to fight Stevenson he has to have an agreement that he will advised by Haymon afterward?

Find some examples of decent fights like those two where the B side isn't Haymon. You will mostly find nothing but Rees and Salka level opponents.


But meh. Whatever. Just wait and see.... I bet anything that Haymons fighters fight nothing but Salka type opponents. Besides fighting each other.

You won't see Haymon working with Top rank, banner, k2, etc.... If that's what you want for boxing. That's on you. But I know that's not what you want.


If Haymon were to work with other promoters and DOESNT do what I'm saying he will... And we get fights like Kovalev-Adonis. I'll eat dirt.

But I do not see that happening.

[jifferson]

18 pages arguing over haymon. Boxing is a dying sport!!!!!!

[Mitchell Kane]

I know the number. It's a great number for boxing and will get many of those guys on air. However, the $20 million isn't necessarily a huge number when it comes to television rights. The four major sports (NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB) all do huge money with television contracts.

It's a "chunk of change" compared to those numbers. But yeah, the 20 million is still a great number for boxing, don't get me wrong. Hopefully it doesn't go to waste with useless matchmaking.

It wouldn't be NBC's money, though, it'd Haymon's money.

And I don't see Haymon spending money on the fights and the production costs, etc. to put his guys in tough fights.

Hauser suggets these NBC fights could be for the non-GBP boxers...the ones still in their developmental stages, so perhaps he would primarily just be taking his Shobox level fights to NBC Sports and leaving the championship fights on SHO.

If so, it'll be more like what Main Events did on NBC during the early Rocky Juarez, Panchito Bojado, et al. years, where they showcased some of their boxers.

[King_]

If you judge everything on the proposed danny v salka card, would it be fair if someone judged everything on the may/canelo and danny/ matts card, or the broner/maidana card?

Shouldn't all of the cards haymon has been involved with be used to form an opinion on what he will do in the future?

But all of those guys besides Canelo are with Haymon.


That's what I'm saying. IMO it's either gonna be Haymon vs. Haymon or Haymon vs. Salka/Gavin Rees


You're not going to see Haymon vs. Algieri/Kovalev/Gamboa/Crawford, etc.... IMO


Name some examples of Haymon fighters fighting out-of-house opponents who actually have a pulse

[The Big Dunn]

But all of those guys besides Canelo are with Haymon.


That's what I'm saying. IMO it's either gonna be Haymon vs. Haymon or Haymon vs. Salka/Gavin Rees


You're not going to see Haymon vs. Algieri/Kovalev/Gamboa/Crawford, etc.... IMO


Name some examples of Haymon fighters fighting out-of-house opponents who actually have a pulse

Aeerola v stivernne 1 and 2 for example.

You have a fair point that Haymon may be planning to make the bulk of his fights in house so he controls everything and gets all profit.

If it happens-and he acts like HBO does-give fighters a tune up than they fight each other-that won't be bad. thats been done for ages.

If its all Danny v salka-then we agree terrible for the sport.

[DoktorSleepless]

I actually think the best part of deal is that Haymon is spending his own money. Well, actually the investors' money, but still. There should be some actual oversight over how much fighters are paid if they expect to make a profit. And since you're making money off advertising, I don't think you can get away with consistently putting on shit cards since ratings will actually matter. HBOconomis/SHOconomics has been completely out of wack with reality for a long time with purses being completely arbitrary and out of sync with ratings. This could help fix things... unless Haymon managed to find investors gullible to enough to fall Haymon's con jobs again.

[King_]

Aeerola v stivernne 1 and 2.

Weren't both of those fights ordered by the WBC tho?



And for the record, believe me... I hope I'm wrong bro. But I don't see it


Haymons goal is to get his fighters the most money for as little of a risk as possible. Or am I missing something? I.e- ducking a unification with Kovalev to fight Fonfara for a career high pay day (fighting the low risk guy for the pay day. Instead of the unification bout with the "risk" guy for the same career payment if not more)

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

And it wouldn't be the first time. Hauser's award winning PED Mess article was basically a rehash of Gabriel Montoya's articles.

This article was being worked on for several weeks. Maybe a month or so. Montoya was pushing Hauser's PED article hard on the social networks, until Hauser won the award and that tells you everything that you need to know.

[King_]

Aeerola v stivernne 1 and 2 for example.

You have a fair point that Haymon may be planning to make the bulk of his fights in house so he controls everything and gets all profit.

If it happens-and he acts like HBO does-give fighters a tune up than they fight each other-that won't be bad. thats been done for ages.

If its all Danny v salka-then we agree terrible for the sport.

I agree. and that's all I have to say.

If we can get Haymon fighters vs. The Kovalevs and Crawfords for unifications/big fights. Then I don't care.

[Mitchell Kane]

I agree. and that's all I have to say.

If we can get Haymon fighters vs. The Kovalevs and Crawfords for unifications/big fights. Then I don't care.

Not really sure how you get those kind of fights with a budget of $20 million for 20+ fights.