Comments Thread For: What is Al Haymon Planning?

[The Big Dunn]

Psh. I hope you're not banking on Haymon matching his fighters against the Provodnikovs and Gamboas of the boxing world like Arum does.

It's either gonna be strictly in-house fights, or out-of house showcase fights like Rod Salka for Haymon fighters.

Why would anyone support that? None of those other promoters have made a mockery of the sport by trying to turn boxing into WWE.

Prepare to see more situations like Kovalev-Stevenson.

In the future, to fight a Haymon fighter... One must sign a contract that states something like this: you are willing to fork over $5 million up fromt, just to get in the ring with our fighter. You have to wear 30oz gloves. You have to walk up to the ring blindfolded. And we get to pick the judges.


Boxing is gonna be awesome now.. We'll get all the fights we've been wanting!

If you judge everything on the proposed danny v salka card, would it be fair if someone judged everything on the may/canelo and danny/ matts card, or the broner/maidana card?

Shouldn't all of the cards haymon has been involved with be used to form an opinion on what he will do in the future?

[The Tase]

^Truth

Anybody that takes Schaefers or Haymons side in this is certified ***** and should never be allowed to have an opinion.

Schaefer was a former banker, one of the oldest schemes bankers use is to get rich off others peoples money eg, Oscar.

its just utterly sad the depths some people will go to protect their agenda.

here you have a well respected journalist shedding light on al haymon,

a guy being sued left and right for breaking deals, stealing fighters,

using proxy pricks like schaeffer trying to steal fighters and the company from oscar,

if that wasnt enough, i risked my life exposing the fact that al haymon is a underworld crime lord and these people still want to put their heads in the sand.

its just sad and its the reason why people believe religion, why people get conned every day, why bad things happen and nothing is done about it.

these are the people that make the world a horrible place that it is.

its better to be cynical in life than to be utterly aloof and gullible.

[Mitchell Kane]

Also to your other point about boxing doesn't need them. If NBC is providing a nice chunk of change to host his cards, then why can't boxing fans look forward to that?

I didn't see anything about NBC providing a chunk of change.

Hauser suggests the opposite.

Multiple sources say that NBC has agreed in principle to a plan pursuant to which Haymon's company (or a stand-in) would buy $20,000,000 worth of time on NBC and televise at least twenty fights cards during a one-year period. Most of the fights would be on the NBC Sports channel, but at least three would be on NBC.

Haymon's investment group would pay most costs associated with the telecasts, including the fighters; purses and television production costs.

And $20 million for 20+ fights isn't exactly a huge budget, especially if most of that money is going to Haymon boxers....such as Guerrero-Karmegai, where you have Guerrero making $1 million and Karmegai getting $75,000.

[The Big Dunn]

Lets clear it up a bit.

Marquez got the first rematch when Golden boy and Arum squashed their beef, Remember? he never had to sign to arum to get that fight.

Goldenboy specifically Richard Shaeffer tried to steal Pacqiuao from Arum? knowing he was still under contract.

Arum never started crap, it was always oscar and richard acting like ****y little twerps.

When Floyd retired Richard was forced to bow down to Arum and fake smile him, he had no other stars, Arum NEVER had to work with them but he did, so if that was a guy who was only for in house fights I dont know what to say.

Arum put Pacman in with Barrera rematch, JMM rematch, Hatton, Oscar, all golden boy fighters, so the concept that he only wanted to protect Pac and do in house fights is a lie. He also put cotto in with mosley, he put margarito in with mosley, hopkins with pavlik, etc.


Floyd Mayweather acts as Haymons mouth piece, he deflects because that is what Haymon taught him. Haymon and Richard are the ones who want to do in house fights and use a UFC model. so Arum is the easiest scape goat because he is in the public eye while Haymon is in the background, Richard words revealed the truth when Oscar said he wanted to end the cold war Richard got mad and said he will NEVER do business with Arum.

In business you have to learn to negotiate and do business with people you don't like Arum and king did it, but Richard didnt want to that was a suspect line, it shows his true intentions were to start a monopoly. These guys don't want to do business they want it all, they want boxing for themselves that is the scary part. That is what causes corruption.

Arum only started doing in house fights with Pac because he knew what Richard was up to and Richard screwed him again so Arum said fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

This is all basically Richard Shaeffers doing. This guy is the one who started the cold war and he is also the one who REFUSED to end it with his comment, I will never do business with Arum after Oscar told him to squash the beef. Richard is also the moron who didn't sign fighters to Golden boy which was his job as a promoter ceo, instead he let all the fighters sign to haymon and promoted them without having them to contracts. Shady stuff. This is not a good man, and flowmos keep defending Richard he screwed over Golden boy.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/p...den-boy-battle
ODH gave Manny the money -not schaeffer. Of course you just ramble on and on substituting agressive posting and race baiting for facts.

Perhaps, if ODH was actually running his company instead of going on coke a **** binges, this wouldn't have happened.

[Weebler I]

But you don't mention Garcia/Matthysse or Broner/Maidana.

Two fights, whoopee doo, and Broner-Maidana was a costly cherrypick gone wrong just like Garcia-Herrera.

Balance that against years of overpaid can crushing from Berto, Wilder, Russell JR and his TBA farce, protection of Quillin, his role in the Cold War, dismantling of Stevenson-Kovalev...the list goes on.

The article says he has plans in place to put them on. And the Duva lawsuit won't amount to ****.

He can't put them on, he's not a promoter. Duva doesn't even need to win the lawsuit, all these lawsuits need to do is to throw light on Haymon's practices - light he hates because he doesn't want his intentions and methods exposed. If he's looking for investment his reputation is key.

Haymon helps fighters. King screwed them. Big difference.

Haymon screws the TV companies, promoters and most importantly, the consumer i.e. the boxing fans.

He doesn't necessarily help his fighters either, the likes of Khan, Porter and Thurman can't fight for big money against Pacquiao, Bradley, Marquez etc

[The Tase]

http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/p...den-boy-battle
ODH gave Manny the money -not schaeffer. Of course you just ramble on and on substituting agressive posting and race baiting for facts.

Perhaps, if ODH was actually running his company instead of going on coke a **** binges, this wouldn't have happened.

you forgot **** sex with *****s.

your post means nothing without it.

still you expect your men who you pay to stay loyal to you.

That's what crime lords do though, they turn people crooked. they buy people off.

i cant believe you people cant see it.

[SamuraiSam]

By Thomas Hauser - Al Haymon is smart. “Scary smart,” one person who has dealt with him over the years calls him. He’s also adept at telling people what they want to hear, a good listener, and very much into control.

In recent months, Haymon has added significantly to the growing number of fighters that he manages or “advises.” In a better-run sport, his recruiting methods might earn him a trip to the commissioner’s office to answer charges of tampering. Be that as it may, the list of fighters that he represents now includes Floyd Mayweather, Marcos Maidana, Adrien Broner, Danny Garcia, Lucas Matthysse, Amir Khan, Devon Alexander, Deontay Wilder, Peter Quillin, Shawn Porter, Keith Thurman, Erislandy Lara, Paulie Malignaggi, Andre Berto, Chris Arreola, Sakio Bika, Gary Russell Jr, Adonis Stevenson, Chad Dawson, Beibut Shumenov, Jermain Taylor, Edwin Rodriguez, Lamont and Anthony Peterson, Jermell and Jermall Charlo, Leo Santa Cruz, John Molina, Rances Barthelemy, Luis Collazo, Josesito Lopez, Miguel Vasquez, Vanes Martirosyan, Dominic Breazeale, Marcus Browne, Terrell Gausha, Errol Spence Jr, Dominic Wade, and Rau'shee Warren. [Click Here To Read More]

Wow. Thomas Hauser slams another one out of the ballpark, proving once again that he's one of the best investigative journalists in the game. All props and respect to him. This article lends validation to the comments/replies I've made about the Hymen/TMT business agenda in previous threads.

I can already predict/foresee, before I even start reading through this thread, what the types of comments will be: one faction, especially the "new breed" of fans, will be dismissive and/or critical of the article, rooting for and praising Al Hymen and hoping he's successful in his business agenda for the future of boxing; the other faction will understand how he's bad for boxing.

Let the reading begin...further comment pending.

[The Tase]

I REPEAT THIS AGAIN,

WHAT REPUTABLE BUSINESSMAN HIDES FROM THE MEDIA HAVING A NO MEDIA COMPLETE BLACK OUT POLICY????

& you're in the entertainment business to boot but have a complete media blackout policy????


the signs are all there.

[warp1432]

I didn't see anything about NBC providing a chunk of change.

Hauser suggests the opposite.



And $20 million for 20+ fights isn't exactly a huge budget, especially if most of that money is going to Haymon boxers....such as Guerrero-Karmegai, where you have Guerrero making $1 million and Karmegai getting $75,000.

I know the number. It's a great number for boxing and will get many of those guys on air. However, the $20 million isn't necessarily a huge number when it comes to television rights. The four major sports (NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB) all do huge money with television contracts.

It's a "chunk of change" compared to those numbers. But yeah, the 20 million is still a great number for boxing, don't get me wrong. Hopefully it doesn't go to waste with useless matchmaking.

[The Big Dunn]

you forgot **** sex with *****s.

your post means nothing without it.

still you expect your men who you pay to stay loyal to you.

That's what crime lords do though, they turn people crooked. they buy people off.

i cant believe you people cant see it.

As I said to you a few months ago-boxing was better when the real mafia ran it. Since lawyers (arum) and businessman (Haymon) have been involved its gotten ten times more ******.

Haymon runs his company the way he chooses. He also can try and make inroads and I completely understand how the old guard (arum, duva who lets face it-can't be happy that a wealthy black man is getting involved in a business where many, but not all of the top fighters are black) would chafe at his existence.

But come on-Arum hired Koncz for manny. Main events managed fighters and promoted them simultaneously for years. SO they are being a tad bit hypocritical.

This is simply about power and control and the fear that Haymon crushes their businesses. This isn't so much about boxing-its more like Wal Mart vs the mom and pop store.

Further you have al and richard who don't strike me as the nicest businessman working with a guy who they see on a daily basis coked out, ****ing hookers, etc etc. They may be scummy-but they could be counted on to do their jobs.

Can you really say that about ODH?