"Alien" Hopkins vs "Krusher" Kovalev Post fight Discussion thread

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  • mathed
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    #221
    Originally posted by Mister Wolf
    I think this is a fair question. I already have Hopkins above him based on level of opposition faced and this fight would just solidify it even further for me.
    He's well above Floyd in my rankings. Floyd has ruined his shot at all time greatness with his cherry picking and ducking of fighters. BHOP is outside the top 10-15 of the sport but should he beat Kovalev in convincing fashion, I'd put him in the top 10 all time.

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    • Kuyukut
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      #222
      hopkins is a level above fraud jr. but if hopkins beats kovalev he'll be a tad below pac.

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        #223
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        I would have BH above Floyd already, Floyd isn't that high ATG wise.
        When BH was younger his resume might have lacked a bit, because there wasn't anybody that good in the middleweight division, but he did the business for years and years, and still doing things that are comparable to FLoyd now, apart from lose once in a while.

        But BH never took lay offs with the luxury of fighting when he wanted to do and fighting so little.



        This part is a joke right?? Hopkins was damn near fighting once every year in a half..he just now stepped it up

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        • solo20
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          #224
          He's already above mayweather THREAD FAIL **** OUT HERE WITH YOUR BULLCRAP

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            #225
            Originally posted by LarryXXX
            Jones is not ranked higher then Manny, floyd or Hopkins
            Originally posted by LarryXXX
            No he doesn't not even close
            Yes he is.

            He ranks higher than them all. The only one that competes on resume is Pacquiao. Hopkins resume is good, and he gets props because he's so old and still doing his thing. But I can't see how he's supposed to be greater than Jones or have a better resume.

            So give me the lowdown on why Hopkins resume is better than Jones' then?

            Jones' best wins simply smoke Hopkins out of the water completely. He has Hopkins himself, Toney, Montel Griffin, Tarver, McCallum, Ruiz, Hill, Trinidad - that's just going off memory.

            Hopkins has defended his middleweight belt a lot of times, but the quality of that streak doesn't come anywhere near Jones' resume. The likes of Cloud, Shumenov and Murat are nobodies really. I'm not saying he has a bad resume at all, but he certainly doesn't have anywhere near as good a resume as Jones.

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              #226
              Difference between the two: Hopkins fights one of the sport's biggest punchers at age 50. Floyd fights one of the sport's biggest punchers and makes him wear sparring gloves during the fight.

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                #227
                Originally posted by Kuyukut
                hopkins is a level above fraud jr. but if hopkins beats kovalev he'll be a tad below pac.
                LOL BELOW PAC good one you are a funny man

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                • LacedUp
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                  #228
                  Originally posted by mathed
                  Difference between the two: Hopkins fights one of the sport's biggest punchers at age 50. Floyd fights one of the sport's biggest punchers and makes him wear sparring gloves during the fight.
                  I don't know anyone who spars in 8/10oz gloves or what it was

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                    #229
                    Originally posted by LarryXXX
                    Maidana is the more accomplished pro man and it isn't even debatable..give Kovalev time to get his career going ya'll are hyping the man to fast
                    You said it was the better win, nothing about being a more accomplished pro.

                    Let me ask you, which is a the better win for Cotto at 160lbs, a win over Golovkin or a win over Mayweather?

                    Floyd has the deeper resume, the more "accomplished pro", but we all know which would be the greater win.

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                      #230
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      Yes he is.

                      He ranks higher than them all. The only one that competes on resume is Pacquiao. Hopkins resume is good, and he gets props because he's so old and still doing his thing. But I can't see how he's supposed to be greater than Jones or have a better resume.

                      So give me the lowdown on why Hopkins resume is better than Jones' then?

                      Jones' best wins simply smoke Hopkins out of the water completely. He has Hopkins himself, Toney, Montel Griffin, Tarver, McCallum, Ruiz, Hill, Trinidad - that's just going off memory.

                      Hopkins has defended his middleweight belt a lot of times, but the quality of that streak doesn't come anywhere near Jones' resume. The likes of Cloud, Shumenov and Murat are nobodies really. I'm not saying he has a bad resume at all, but he certainly doesn't have anywhere near as good a resume as Jones.
                      Jones resume is thin and he was always criticized for not fighting the best

                      Hopkins, Manny and Mayweather have all beaten more current champions then him..Floyd has more win over current champions then all of them

                      and did you really list Trinidad for Jones???..so you can list Jones for Hopkins then right?

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