Is there a SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that Pacquiao USED STEROIDS?

[IMDAZED]

it means everything.

manny's move from super featherweight to welterweight isn't as incredible or impossible as people make it out to be. pac just doesn't have to drain himself down as much anymore or at all.

So you think he was gaining 10-15lbs of muscle overnight. No wonder you think it's everything.

[Divine Hammer]

So you think he was gaining 10-15lbs of muscle overnight. No wonder you think it's everything.

yes he was. he was too big for 130 by the time he fought marquez the second time.

this is what i believe in.

he doesn't drain himself down as much anymore. he weighs in at 145 and comes in at 148 on fight night now.

[Divine Hammer]

So you think he was gaining 10-15lbs of muscle overnight. No wonder you think it's everything.

do you think it's su****ious for pac to gain 3 lbs in 9 months?

[djtmal]

Manny did that with the 10 mil per lMayweather's t penalty. Floyd said ok and then asked for testing. is that cause and effect?

There is nothing wrong with asking Manny to take the same tests he was going to take. If he had asked Manny to take them and not him, then you'd have a valid complaint.

Me pointing out Manny refusing to take tests isn't bias, it's truth and fact. You know this so you try and make floyd at fault for asking they both test. That's ridiculous.

You keep trying to defend the indefensible. There wasn't then and isn't now a plausible reason for that decision that doesn't make the actions look su****ious.

Sooo...by your account...

10 mil per lb. why? Because the Pac camp, and the world, saw the Mayweathers blatantly cheat Marquez at the scales. If they refused to agree to any weight stipulation by the Pac camp on a weight issue, they would be ostracized. If you gonna tell the story tell the whole one. Not the one that just fits the Mayweathers agenda.

So now the Mayweather's make it about testing...

Pacquaio refusing tests yes its the truth and fact, but based on what? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. No previous fight where Pacquaio tested positive for even cough syrup. Nothing. So yeah there is something wrong with the Mayweather's trying to one up Pacquaio by trying to force testing that isn't even used in boxing, then trying to make it Pacquaio's fault for saying no. A whole Manny is roidin smear campaign initiated by the Mayweather's, because apparently, Mayweather Sr is afraid for his son's life if he fights Manny ****ing Pacquaio.

Please man just say its both their fault and live with it.

[The Big Dunn]

FLOYD FAILED the scale before that negotiation BIG TIME, Pac did not failed any drug test... see the logic BIG FAT DUMB DUNN?

The commission has penalties for failing to make weight already so this wasn't needed.

Floyd came in at 146 for a 144 lb fight. To my knowledge he never came in over 147 where the fight would be.

Floyd just called manny's bluff. He figured floyd would balk at it but he didn't.

[IMDAZED]

yes he was. he was too big for 130 by the time he fought marquez the second time.

this is what i believe in.

he doesn't drain himself down as much anymore. he weighs in at 145 and comes in at 148 on fight night now.

No, I don't believe he gained 10-15lbs of muscle overnight and I don't believe that's possible.

[The Big Dunn]

Sooo...by your account...

10 mil per lb. why? Because the Pac camp, and the world, saw the Mayweathers blatantly cheat Marquez at the scales. If they refused to agree to any weight stipulation by the Pac camp on a weight issue, they would be ostracized. If you gonna tell the story tell the whole one. Not the one that just fits the Mayweathers agenda.

So now the Mayweather's make it about testing...

Pacquaio refusing tests yes its the truth and fact, but based on what? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. No previous fight where Pacquaio tested positive for even cough syrup. Nothing. So yeah there is something wrong with the Mayweather's trying to one up Pacquaio by trying to force testing that isn't even used in boxing, then trying to make it Pacquaio's fault for saying no. A whole Manny is roidin smear campaign initiated by the Mayweather's, because apparently, Mayweather Sr is afraid for his son's life if he fights Manny ****ing Pacquaio.

Please man just say its both their fault and live with it.

I said they are both to blame in this thread (in the post you replied to but parsed) and to you several other times. But it started with the refusal from manny.

Manny couldn't have tested positive because the testing wasn't adequate enough to detect the advanced ped's-which is why floyd asked they both take the tests.

Manny saying no isn't someone else fault djtmal. It's his. When you accept it we can move on.

[Resilient]

Floboner logic: He's not black and he's really fast and powerful so he must be on roids

[Divine Hammer]

No, I don't believe he gained 10-15lbs of muscle overnight and I don't believe that's possible.

why not? many greats do it.

duran did it a lot.

i think your problem is you don't see a lot of things as being possible. when someone does something you think is not possible you say they are cheating.

nothing is impossible if you are dedicated enough. i hope you learned something.

[junior gong]

There's no evidence to make the case that most of the top fighters are on something, but we all know they are.

No we dont.