Is there a SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that Pacquiao USED STEROIDS?

[The Big Dunn]

No, the hurt feelings is what the Floyd fans says when asked why Floyd just now decided he will never work with arum but how come he didn't feel this way in 09-2012.

The Floyd fans said well maybe after all the years trying to negotiate a fight with arum getting in the way and the how arum treated Floyd when floyd was still under him so Floyd's feelings was hurt so that's why he just now decided the he won't do business with arum anymore. I'm just using what they've been saying back at them.

Ok. If that makes manny less su****ious to you, I'm ok with that.

Manny never tested positive so I don't say he is a ped cheat. I just question the actions.

I for one will be glued to Filipino oprah during sweeps week in 2015.

[Mindrapist]

Would a positive blood test be clear evidence? If the answer is yes-we can guess why manny refused.

If the answer is no-its hard to understand the refusal.

He did refuse the tests. Why else didn't the fight happen?

His only compromise was announced testing or a 30-day cut-off period, which allows you to juice up all kinds of stuff.

Later that year, they only agreed to testing up until 7 days, which is when they said "oh, we agree to all his demands!"

They only said this when they knew the cut-off compromise was off the table. And they could still get at least 80% of the benefits with the 7-day cut-off.

Of course, EPO can be out of the system in a day or so.

All things considered, if I'm Mayweather and seeing this reaction, I'd consider all of that major red flags.

I think any sensible person would agree with that.

[djtmal]

Would a positive blood test be clear evidence? If the answer is yes-we can guess why manny refused.

If the answer is no-its hard to understand the refusal.

I know you refuse to admit, that manny didn't refuse, to any type of blood or urine tests. That is not hard to understand at all.

[DeadLikeMe]

He did refuse the tests. Why else didn't the fight happen?

His only compromise was announced testing or a 30-day cut-off period, which allows you to juice up all kinds of stuff.

Later that year, they only agreed to testing up until 7 days, which is when they said "oh, we agree to all his demands!"

They only said this when they knew the cut-off compromise was off the table. And they could still get at least 80% of the benefits with the 7-day cut-off.

Of course, EPO can be out of the system in a day or so.

All things considered, if I'm Mayweather and seeing this reaction, I'd consider all of that major red flags.

I think any sensible person would agree with that.

Except you're not dealing with sensible people. You're dealing with fanaticism to a cultish degree.

[Evol]

Ok. If that makes manny less su****ious to you, I'm ok with that.

Manny never tested positive so I don't say he is a ped cheat. I just question the actions.

I for one will be glued to Filipino oprah during sweeps week in 2015.

I hope u're a patient man then cause that wait might not come tomorrow lol. U might as well wait for that tell all book from ariza, it'll prolly come out first lol. I'm more interested in that tell all book from miss Jackson but I have a life too so a ninja ain't about to sit and wait on that lol.

[DeadLikeMe]

In his book Crazy Talk, ****** Talk, Neil Postman states that "the key to all fanatical beliefs is that they are self-confirming....(some beliefs are) fanatical not because they are 'false', but because they are expressed in such a way that they can never be shown to be false."[2]

See also. This thread.

[Evol]

He did refuse the tests. Why else didn't the fight happen?

His only compromise was announced testing or a 30-day cut-off period, which allows you to juice up all kinds of stuff.

Later that year, they only agreed to testing up until 7 days, which is when they said "oh, we agree to all his demands!"

They only said this when they knew the cut-off compromise was off the table. And they could still get at least 80% of the benefits with the 7-day cut-off.

Of course, EPO can be out of the system in a day or so.

All things considered, if I'm Mayweather and seeing this reaction, I'd consider all of that major red flags.

I think any sensible person would agree with that.

Watch out guys, we have a ped expert in here lol!!! Maybe that's why Floyd doesn't do year around testing? lmao!

[Mindrapist]

Watch out guys, we have a ped expert in here lol!!! Maybe that's why Floyd doesn't do year around testing? lmao!

Ah! The classic insult, sandwiched by LOLs and "lmao". The ultimate go-to move when facts expose a bias.

Perhaps you meant to say, "watch out guys, we have a guy actually being reasonable and objective in here!" I could see why that would prompt laughs though.

So you're saying you wouldn't agree and you wouldn't consider this red flags if you were Mayweather?

OK. Fair enough.

[Evol]

Ah! The classic insult, sandwiched by LOLs and "lmao". The ultimate go-to move when facts expose a bias.

Perhaps you meant to say, "watch out guys, we have a guy actually being reasonable and objective in here!" I could see why that would prompt laughs though.

So you're saying you wouldn't agree and you wouldn't consider this red flags if you were Mayweather?

OK. Fair enough.

um no, pretty sure i was right the first time. u typed all that up as if those are facts when the truth is those are just ur opinions. LOL! 30 day cut off allows u to juice all kinds of stuff LMAO! floyd doesnt do year round testing, thats a red flag for me! floyd so sprung off of and accusing other fighters of cheating. thats a red flag for me! floyd's own team has been caught more than on one occasion, thats a red flag to me!

[SeekDaGreat]

This I ******. You can say "Mayweather was taking steroids too, there wasn't any evidence doe because he hasn't got caught yet. He was jus calling Manny's bluff and wasn't going to even take the tests or the fight if Manny HAD obliged."

You can spin it anyway you want it to fit your agenda.

The fact of the matter is there is NO EVIDENCE. Therefore not admissible in the court of boxing.

Speculation = CIRCUMSTANCIAL evidence

Just because it's convenient to prosecute someone doesn't mean he did Sh&T!

I'd tear you finger pointers a new a$$hole in court...