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Is there a SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that Pacquiao USED STEROIDS?

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  • Originally posted by Evol View Post
    So have fun waiting then smart guy lol. If anyone is gonna ratt PAC out u would think it'll be ariza right? The guy who was behind pac's success right? Well, he's no longer with team pacquiao. U heard anything leaked from him yet. Lmao!! Oh yeah I forgot to add, Floyd's own pops was caught and convicted for pushing drugs. Now asked urself who would have easier access to peds? A guy in a 3rd world country or money mayweather? There u go another red flag haha.
    Why would he make himself virtually unemployable in his own field? Heredia snitched under threat of perjury and for a reduced sentence. Ariza isn't going to commit career suicide to write a book not than many people would care about anyway. Not to mention the same people who wanted to murder Tim Bradley's children would for sure go after Ariza. The book (if there is anything to "tell all" about) will still be there in 10, 15, 20 years. In the meantime he will just keep getting his 10% of fight purses as long as people will put up with him.

    When Jose Canseco wrote his book everyone just came out and said he was lying. Ariza could simply wait until Manny is elected president over there and then release a book. Hell, he very well could just make up that he was juicing Pac regardless of the truth. That's what you guys would believe no matter what anyway. The book deal will always be there if he wants it, even if it is completely fabricated.

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    • Basically, there's no evidence that Pacquiao was juicing. Only speculations. I wouldn't be surprised though if later on he does admit that he used something but that also goes for his rival Mayweather. Either one may end up like Lance Armstrong.

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      • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        We agree.

        Walking away from a fight because your opponent suggested you both take tests raises su****ions.

        Asking a different opponent to take the tests then saying no testing is needed when he asks you do same tests is even more su****ious.

        I never said manny was guilty. All I said was his actions made him look su****ious.
        But...

        why would he agree to urine analysis if he was juicing?

        You do realise urine tests are more reliable for PED detection right?

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        • Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
          Why would he make himself virtually unemployable in his own field? Heredia snitched under threat of perjury and for a reduced sentence. Ariza isn't going to commit career suicide to write a book not than many people would care about anyway. Not to mention the same people who wanted to murder Tim Bradley's children would for sure go after Ariza. The book (if there is anything to "tell all" about) will still be there in 10, 15, 20 years. In the meantime he will just keep getting his 10% of fight purses as long as people will put up with him.

          When Jose Canseco wrote his book everyone just came out and said he was lying. Ariza could simply wait until Manny is elected president over there and then release a book. Hell, he very well could just make up that he was juicing Pac regardless of the truth. That's what you guys would believe no matter what anyway. The book deal will always be there if he wants it, even if it is completely fabricated.
          He's already unemployed smart guy, who is he working with? Lol. Let's see angel and conte both were known peds pusher and they're still getting business from other fighters. Wouldn't a book bring in more income than what ariza is making at the moment if any lol? lol

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          • Originally posted by Booty Dew View Post
            But...

            why would he agree to urine analysis if he was juicing?

            You do realise urine tests are more reliable for PED detection right?
            This one makes them butthurt lmao...

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            • There isn't any hard evidence. Only evidence that would suggest it.

              Like classic signs of steroid use:

              Enlarged cranium ( your head dont' start randomly growing at age 30)
              Muscle Spasms ( Pac frequently gets em)
              Increased speed, strength, stamina ( self explanatory)


              Now the bottom two, can be a result of working out too hard, dehydration, and hard work. But enlarged cranium....your head doesn't grow at age 30. males stop growing at age 24. Pacs head looks enormous compared to his younger days. Just look at pictures.

              Now. All this being said, it's STILL NOT evidence. It's all merely circumstantial, but suggests that he does use PEDS.

              One last thing worth mentioning. Again, this DOESN'T prove anything, but even pac fans gotta admit, that in the midst of TRUCKING through elite fighters with ease, it's su****ious as **** to dodge OSDT.

              Then when he's open to drug testing, suddenly, he's slower, weaker, less shredded, and hasn't KO'd anyone since.

              Again. It's all circumstantial, and proves nothing. But certainly, you can't give anyone **** for believing such accusations under said circumstances.

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              • Originally posted by tangalog2200 View Post
                and a lot of nsb ped experts could not help themselves but...REJOICE!!!!

                back in business...he he he
                hmmm...

                page 37? and counting....

                you're doing very well TS...

                cheers to all nsb ped experts!!

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                • Originally posted by tangalog2200 View Post
                  hmmm...

                  page 37? and counting....

                  you're doing very well TS...

                  cheers to all nsb ped experts!!
                  hmmmm....

                  are all nsb ped experts on their labs?

                  looks lonely in here.....

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                  • Evidence: He refused random drug testing.

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                    • Originally posted by Vilicious86 View Post
                      Evidence: He refused random drug testing.

                      Bull****. Floyd Mayweather is just a ***** ****** who will make any excuse not to fight Pacman.

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