Where's the Holyfield Appreciation Thread?

[Daddy T]

one of my all time favs. Fought everybody.
that first Qawi fight was awesome

[IMDAZED]

What really stood out to me about Holyfield was his boxing IQ and his footwork. He could dance. Would pump out that jab, circle, set up his combinations, get inside and then mug you. Underrated power, a great chin, recovery skills and the heart of a lion. Top 10 HW and one of the best fighters I ever saw in my lifetime.

[Elroy1]

You like to brag about Rahman, and Holyfield beat him back in 2002 when he still mattered. He also had a close fight with Lewis in the rematch that some believe he won.

Ruiz
Moorer
You can pretend all you want, but Holyfield was the "shot" fighter going into the Tyson fight.
Mercer, again someone you brag about for other fighters.
Dokes

You build up fighters for beating a hell of a lot worse than who Holyfield beat.

I am somewhat lightened when it comes to Holyfield.

But a close look, Holyfield LOST to and struggled with Moorer who was not a really good opponent.
He never convincingly beat Bowe.
Ruiz lost to ****ing Roy Jones for Christ sake!
Mercer is a tough opponent not especially a skilled one!
Rahman IS a great opponent but that fight was stopped on a hematoma, not a KO!
And as for Holyfield being shot for Tyson? Get out of here man! Holyfield fought on for what 15 more years! I don't consider either Tyson or Holyfield shot.

The guys was not that old and was roided to the gills, he looked as good as ever to me. That was a foolish comment.

Holyfield is a great fighter and fought very strong opposition overall but even in his appreciation we should adjust it for the truth.

[IMDAZED]

I am somewhat lightened when it comes to Holyfield.

But a close look, Holyfield LOST to and struggled with Moorer who was not a really good opponent.
He never convincingly beat Bowe.
Ruiz lost to ****ing Roy Jones for Christ sake!
Mercer is a tough opponent not especially a skilled one!
Rahman IS a great opponent but that fight was stopped on a hematoma, not a KO!
And as for Holyfield being shot for Tyson? Get out of here man! Holyfield fought on for what 15 more years! I don't consider either Tyson or Holyfield shot.

The guys was not that old and was roided to the gills, he looked as good as ever to me. That was a foolish comment.

Nearly all the fights you mentioned involved a past-prime Holyfield.

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You know you made it as a boxer/celeb when you do a cameo for The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air

[Elroy1]

Nearly all the fights you mentioned involved a past-prime Holyfield.

I am open to the opinion that against Valuev, Ibragimov and maybe Ruiz, Holyfield could be called something close to shot.

However it's unfair to say Holyfield was not a good boxer still right to the end, experience counts for much more than other attributes and he looked like a tough opponent to me.

To say that he was "shot" against any of the others though is completely outrageous.

Against Tyson he was supreme.

Against Moorer, even earlier he was in his true HW "primest of prime" when he lost.

He just come out of the Bowe loss and close SD win.

You cannot say that Holyfield won the HW championship, fought 7 times against nobody particularly brilliant, and then as soon as he lost 1ce to a great opponent in Bowe, he was shot.

That's ****ing ******!

The guy was EXCELLENT! To me he has one of the best resumes of all time!

But he DID amass a lot of losses, you can't deny that!

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I am open to the opinion that against Valuev, Ibragimov and maybe Ruiz, Holyfield could be called something close to shot.

However it's unfair to say Holyfield was not a good boxer still right to the end, experience counts for much more than other attributes and he looked like a tough opponent to me.

To say that he was "shot" against any of the others though is completely outrageous.

Against Tyson he was supreme.

Against Moorer, even earlier he was in his true HW "primest of prime" when he lost.

He just come out of the Bowe loss and close SD win.

You cannot say that Holyfield won the HW championship, fought 7 times against nobody particularly brilliant, and then as soon as he lost 1ce to a great opponent in Bowe, he was shot.

That's ****ing ******!

The guy was EXCELLENT! To me he has one of the best resumes of all time!

But he DID amass a lot of losses, you can't deny that!

Put it this way, a shot to pieces Holyfield still managed to school Valuev better than David Haye managed to, despite Haye supposedly being the best HW in the world not named Klitschko.

[SlySlickSmooth]

You know you made it as a boxer/celeb when you do a cameo for The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air

Which episode was Holyfield on?

I know Rid**** Bowe was on the episode where Will, Jazz, and Carlton end up at some low way/countryside bar&******** spot. Where Carlton gets addicted to the slot machine and Rid**** Bowe is about to beat his short azz up then Will comes thru and saves his azz.

[IMDAZED]

I am open to the opinion that against Valuev, Ibragimov and maybe Ruiz, Holyfield could be called something close to shot.

However it's unfair to say Holyfield was not a good boxer still right to the end, experience counts for much more than other attributes and he looked like a tough opponent to me.

To say that he was "shot" against any of the others though is completely outrageous.

Against Tyson he was supreme.

Against Moorer, even earlier he was in his true HW "primest of prime" when he lost.

He just come out of the Bowe loss and close SD win.

You cannot say that Holyfield won the HW championship, fought 7 times against nobody particularly brilliant, and then as soon as he lost 1ce to a great opponent in Bowe, he was shot.

That's ****ing ******!

The guy was EXCELLENT! To me he has one of the best resumes of all time!

But he DID amass a lot of losses, you can't deny that!

Never said he was shot. Past prime. He was past prime against Tyson as well.

But I agree that at HW he was quite inconsistent at HW. I don't think he was shot against Bowe either. Bowe was just on his game that first fight. Rematch was close but Evander performed very well and I thought eked it out. And he was even better in the rematch against Moorer, which we shouldn't leave out.

[bojangles1987]

Which episode was Holyfield on?

I know Rid**** Bowe was on the episode where Will, Jazz, and Carlton end up at some low way/countryside bar&******** spot. Where Carlton gets addicted to the slot machine and Rid**** Bowe is about to beat his short azz up then Will comes thru and saves his azz.

A really early Christmas episode where Will decorates the house in poor decorations and all the rich neighbors complain. Will talks a bunch of **** on the phone to one of them, telling him to come over and say **** to his face and it's Holyfield.