Where's the Holyfield Appreciation Thread?

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  • -2 Scrappy-
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    #21
    One of the most underrated fighters ever. Lewis, Tyson, and Bowe get all the hype but Evander was the man! To stay relevant for so long at heavyweight without a hiatus like Foreman, speaks to how good he really was...

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    • GeneralZod
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      #22
      I thought he retired 2 years ago.

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      • Rip Chudd
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        #23
        Originally posted by Freedom2014
        Who did Bowe ever beat? Holyfield.

        Who did Holyfield ever beat? Bowe.



        Neither Bowe nor Holyfield ever beat anybody else of note, unless you consider Hide and Donald good wins for Bowe, and faded old Tyson a good win for Holyfield.
        All they would need is each other compared to Wlad's resume. I say again what on Wlad's resume is better then Holyfield beating Bowe? Heck i'll even raise you another question. What ATG has Wlad ever even faced?

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        • Bigg Rigg
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          #24
          Originally posted by soul_survivor
          This is bizarre, one of the greatest fighters ever, one of the greatest and most entertaining heavyweight champions ever and...nothing. The guy just retired and there isn't even a thread, not one that I saw anyway. So let's make this the official appreciation/retirement thread for a true ATG, a term too oft used but rarely merited.
          Holyfield was a beast back in his days

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          • soul_survivor
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            #25
            Originally posted by -2 Scrappy-
            One of the most underrated fighters ever. Lewis, Tyson, and Bowe get all the hype but Evander was the man! To stay relevant for so long at heavyweight without a hiatus like Foreman, speaks to how good he really was...
            Na, Holyfield is always mentioned over Bowe, I personally believe Bowe is damn overrated by some. The 90s was all about Holy and Tyson and then in the late 90s Lewis.

            Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
            Holyfield was a beast back in his days
            Man, some of the wars he got himself into...when he could have boxed those guys, he was just immense. PED accusations with some quite hard to ignore evidence do let him down though.

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            • Elroy1
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              #26
              Originally posted by soul_survivor
              Na, Holyfield is always mentioned over Bowe, I personally believe Bowe is damn overrated by some. The 90s was all about Holy and Tyson and then in the late 90s Lewis.



              Man, some of the wars he got himself into...when he could have boxed those guys, he was just immense. PED accusations with some quite hard to ignore evidence do let him down though.
              Holyfield owes his HW career to steroids, but he was still great.

              He never convincingly beat Bowe, was outclassed by Lewis, and would never have been able to beat a Klit.

              He has some good wins and fought on admirable (and ******ly). He also has some losses to good but not great opponents like Moorer.

              He is number 5 of my ATG list but I'm sure there would be many other opponents since he would have struggled with.

              His greatest achievement was against Tyson, whether he could have beaten other versions of Tyson when he was at his HW prime in say 92/93, is a good question.

              Still, that was one enormous achievement for a former CW, even if he was roided to the gills. The main reason he was such a tough one to beat was because not just because of his skills, athleticism and roids, but because of his solid chin.

              There's your appreciation!

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              • junior gong
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                #27
                Followed his entire career, absolutely brilliant fighter. Its sad that he went on for so long past his sell by date because I think a lot of people forget just how good he was. The greatest cruiserweight of all time and a HW great.

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                • Elroy1
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by junior gong
                  Followed his entire career, absolutely brilliant fighter. Its sad that he went on for so long past his sell by date because I think a lot of people forget just how good he was. The greatest cruiserweight of all time and a HW great.
                  At CW he has to be considered number 1

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                  • junior gong
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Elroy1
                    At CW he has to be considered number 1
                    There is nobody else that comes close, nobody!

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                    • bojangles1987
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Freedom2014
                      Who did Bowe ever beat? Holyfield.

                      Who did Holyfield ever beat? Bowe.



                      Neither Bowe nor Holyfield ever beat anybody else of note, unless you consider Hide and Donald good wins for Bowe, and faded old Tyson a good win for Holyfield.
                      You like to brag about Rahman, and Holyfield beat him back in 2002 when he still mattered. He also had a close fight with Lewis in the rematch that some believe he won.

                      Ruiz
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                      You can pretend all you want, but Holyfield was the "shot" fighter going into the Tyson fight.
                      Mercer, again someone you brag about for other fighters.
                      Dokes

                      You build up fighters for beating a hell of a lot worse than who Holyfield beat.

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