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  • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
    Bob Arum is one of America's leading promoters and he says things about random drug testing in the past that was COMPLETELY false. Why? Because he didn't know what he was talking about and/or misspoke. Getting **** confused.

    UKAD does the random drug testing year-round for UK athletes. Not VADA. This is a fact! UKAD would never work with VADA. USADA would never work with VADA either. UKAD has been around way before VADA even existed and has way more experience. You guys are comical.
    Bob Arum is also 100 years old, Hearn is not.

    Is the bold a fact? You got any sources to back this up? And we're the comical ones.

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    • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post


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      "The voluntary system that we've got here with VADA is fantastic. All of our fighters are getting knocks on their doors at all times of day to do random testing"

      You're welcome.
      VADA always posts proof on their website when fighters complete testing.

      Where's the proof?

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      • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
        If you say so. I don't really care in all honesty because my point had nothing to do with what agency carries out the testing.

        Do you have Twatter? Maybe you could take Hearn to task on there.
        I understand your core point -- which is UK athletes are randomly drug testing year-round. That is fine. My point has always been just to correct you with the agency involved, which is key. The agency is UKAD, not VADA. It has never ever ever ever been VADA.

        I'm not going to ask Hearn because this is an indisputable fact in regards to UK athletes. If you are going to ask him a question, it should be who is going to do the random drug testing for Porter vs. Brook. Whether it's VADA, USADA, or UKAD? Because Porter is a US fighter. Keep in mind too that, Haymon/GBP tend to use USADA as well.

        So that's a more relevant question to ask, as it has an unknown answer.

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        • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
          Because VADA does not random drug testing UK athletes year-round. They never have! This is a fact, and you can do your homework and see for yourself. This is all done by UKAD.

          When Bob Arum came out and said, Top Rank wants WADA instead of USADA, was that correct? That was incorrect and Arum had no idea what he was talking about. This is no different.
          I never said VADA was testing them. I said maybe they were collaborating with the UK agency.

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          • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
            Sorry what is your point? You seem to be waffling a lot and not saying much.

            The issue is worldwide....ok so do American fighters have a system like this in place where their fighters are tested randomly year round? Yes or no?
            so we finally both agree that blood testing has only been protocol in the last 2 to 3 years in the u.k. with the "recent" push on drugs? thank you.....enjoy the rest of your thread.


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            • Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::. View Post
              Bob Arum is also 100 years old, Hearn is not.

              Is the bold a fact? You got any sources to back this up? And we're the comical ones.
              No official anti-doping agency, of any country, works with an outside agency like VADA. So UKAD does not work with USADA, and USADA does not work with UKAD. Understand? This is fact. They only work together in that they all abide by the same WADA-protocol.

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              • Originally posted by pigsfly View Post
                so we finally both agree that blood testing has only been protocol in the last 2 to 3 years in the u.k. with the "recent" push on drugs? thank you.....enjoy the rest of your thread.


                What? Where have you pulled that from?

                And why did you duck the question?

                Is random, year round testing protocol for American fighters? Yes or no?

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                • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                  What? Where have you pulled that from?

                  And why did you duck the question?

                  Is random, year round testing protocol for American fighters? Yes or no?
                  the problem is UKAD has always probably been around for athletes to use as they choose (like usadas random blood and urine) but the random blood & urine version was never mandated. that happened tho with the recent "push" for stricter test............

                  good DAY mr. diggler.

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                  • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                    What? Where have you pulled that from?

                    And why did you duck the question?

                    Is random, year round testing protocol for American fighters? Yes or no?
                    Answer this:

                    Are you capable of admitting when you're wrong? Or do you just keep arguing?

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                    • Originally posted by pigsfly View Post
                      the problem is UKAD has always probably been around for athletes to use as they choose (like usadas random blood and urine) but the random blood & urine version was never mandated. that happened tho with the recent "push" for stricter test............

                      good DAY mr. diggler.

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