Could THIS Be the Reason Why Shawn Porter Hasn't Signed the Contract to Fight Brook?

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When I said TRAINED I meant boxing, not bodybuilding. If you never boxed and never used steroids then you dunno what it does for a boxer. You said Porter didnt look like a PED user to you but then go and call Mosley (a known PED user) naturally strong. So I had to question your judgement. I dont think you thought that one thru.

What I was trying to say is, (and I do box and I have sparred with guys who openly admit they juice, but at my weight which is Cruiserweight) Mosley had strength regardless of his steroid use. I just dont feel Porter looks like a PED user, I think Malignaggi had one too many wars that night and it caught up with him. I get where the misunderstanding came in to equation with Mosley being an ex steroid user. From my experience with guys who I trained with in a boxing environment, the guys who box that take the gear below 168lbs dont feel any real strength gains from it, but they all speak of major stamina improvement but nothing that says they develope any explosive power. That's down to the steroids themselves, for athletes like boxers the ones in the lower weight class they are used purely to look good and improve stamina as their anabolic agents are just not strong enough to prove otherwise as it would also increase muscle mass which is something that would be a nega negative for someone making weight.

Maybe in today's labs they have manufactured gear that does increase explosive strength without adding mass, I wouldnt know that much, speaking from my experience I believe what I said above bud.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

No. He didn't sign yet because he is in talks with Floyd, not because he's on roids.

I highly doubt he was ever in consideration to get the Mayweather fight.

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What I was trying to say is, (and I do box and I have sparred with guys who openly admit they juice, but at my weight which is Cruiserweight) Mosley had strength regardless of his steroid use. I just dont feel Porter looks like a PED user, I think Malignaggi had one too many wars that night and it caught up with him. I get where the misunderstanding came in to equation with Mosley being an ex steroid user. From my experience with guys who I trained with in a boxing environment, the guys who box that take the gear below 168lbs dont feel any real strength gains from it, but they all speak of major stamina improvement but nothing that says they develope any explosive power. That's down to the steroids themselves, for athletes like boxers the ones in the lower weight class they are used purely to look good and improve stamina as their anabolic agents are just not strong enough to prove otherwise as it would also increase muscle mass which is something that would be a nega negative for someone making weight.

Maybe in today's labs they have manufactured gear that does increase explosive strength without adding mass, I wouldnt know that much, speaking from my experience I believe what I said above bud.

Yea. I wasnt trying to downplay your opinion. I just dont think using Mosley was a good example lol.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

VADA vs. UKAD is a HUGE difference. Them knowing that UKAD tests them is a big deal. It helps them to believe and understand you when you say they are testing randomly year-round. But when you say VADA, because they know VADA does no such thing for British boxers and hardly even does it for US boxers, they think you are full of ****.

Eddie Hearn may have spoken about VADA because if the fight is happening in the U.S., and there's probably complications with UKAD doing it. So it would probably be better if VADA did it, or maybe USADA. That would be my guess. It doesn't change the fact though that VADA does not test Brook and have never tested Brook. That is all done by UKAD.

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"The voluntary system that we've got here with VADA is fantastic. All of our fighters are getting knocks on their doors at all times of day to do random testing"

You're welcome.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Owned.

This dude won't even admit he's wrong. Or admit that he makes stuff up.

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"The voluntary system that we've got here with VADA is fantastic. All of our fighters are getting knocks on their doors at all times of day to do random testing"

You're welcome.

Idk the whole story but I'm guessing in the beginning it used to be the UK agency doing the testing which then started working with VADA? *shrug*

[Godsfly]

It's been implemented for longer than that. I believe they may have used WADA before.

What is the point you're trying to make exactly? The point I was making is that British fighters are randomly tested year round and such a system is sadly not employed in the United States. Are you refuting this in any way or just waffling?

proof because according to what i read nothing said anything about wada...........

link

[radioraheem]

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"The voluntary system that we've got here with VADA is fantastic. All of our fighters are getting knocks on their doors at all times of day to do random testing"

You're welcome.

Hearn doesn't know what he's talking about then and misled you. VADA does not test UK athletes randomly year round. UKAD does the random drug testing there for UK athletes, that's a fact. He misspoke, and you innocently took his incorrect statement to be true.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Idk the whole story but I'm guessing in the beginning it used to be the UK agency doing the testing which then started working with VADA? *shrug*

Seems logical.

[Godsfly]

Idk the whole story but I'm guessing in the beginning it used to be the UK agency doing the testing which then started working with VADA? *shrug*

UK agency? no. but thats what I'm looking for. the only thing that I've found thus far is the vada testing (nothing before that. well, maybe urine)

thats what I've been asking him for................I'm not even sure if it's even none stop "year round" like he's saying.

diggler set up your links and explain this madness (we're just asking for more info. thats all)