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  • #71
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
    It's been implemented for longer than that. I believe they may have used WADA before.

    What is the point you're trying to make exactly? The point I was making is that British fighters are randomly tested year round and such a system is sadly not employed in the United States. Are you refuting this in any way or just waffling?
    You're making **** up as you go. You tried to say that British fighters have been "randomly tested" by VADA before VADA, despite the fact that Mayweather first had himself and Mosley randomly blood tested before VADA even existed.

    Laughable. People on BScene will know if you make stuff up.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Hook-Right View Post
      You're making **** up as you go. You tried to say that British fighters have been "randomly tested" by VADA before VADA, despite the fact that Mayweather first had himself and Mosley randomly blood tested before VADA even existed.

      Laughable. People on BScene will know if you make stuff up.
      I never mentioned Floyd Mayweather. You did. You probably mention him in all threads you post in.

      All I said was that Mayweather is not tested randomly year round. No American fighters are. Except Nonito Donaire. Am I making this up?

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
        It's been implemented for longer than that. I believe they may have used WADA before.

        What is the point you're trying to make exactly? The point I was making is that British fighters are randomly tested year round and such a system is sadly not employed in the United States. Are you refuting this in any way or just waffling?
        You have to learn to do your homework thoroughly before making statements like that. That's why various people are picking you apart. Because your facts are not on-point. You're only partially correct.

        The problem is that you've been saying VADA does random drug testing for British Boxers. That is false! VADA does not do that. Instead, random drug testing is done in the UK by UKAD (www.ukad.org.uk). They are the equivalent of USADA, but just the UK version. They test all the UK Olympic athletes, and professional boxers included.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
          You have to learn to do your homework thoroughly before making statements like that. That's why various people are picking you apart. Because your facts are not on-point. You're only partially correct.

          The problem is that you've been saying VADA does random drug testing for British Boxers. That is false! VADA does not do that. Instead, random drug testing is done in the UK by UKAD (www.ukad.org.uk). They are the equivalent of USADA, but just the UK version. They test all the UK Olympic athletes, and professional boxers included.
          So what you're saying is that I got the agency wrong? Well that's certainly put me in my place....

          Doesn't change the fact that they're randomly tested year round. American fighters are not. I heard Eddie Hearn speak about VADA testing British fighters in an interview the other day.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
            You have to learn to do your homework thoroughly before making statements like that. That's why various people are picking you apart. Because your facts are not on-point. You're only partially correct.

            The problem is that you've been saying VADA does random drug testing for British Boxers. That is false! VADA does not do that. Instead, random drug testing is done in the UK by UKAD (www.ukad.org.uk). They are the equivalent of USADA, but just the UK version. They test all the UK Olympic athletes, and professional boxers included.
            Owned.

            This dude won't even admit he's wrong. Or admit that he makes stuff up.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Hook-Right View Post
              Owned.

              This dude won't even admit he's wrong.
              What am I "wrong" about? The name of the agency that carries out the testing?

              How does that change the point? British fighters are randomly tested year round. Vada, Wada, Prada. Does it matter? They are randomly tested. American fighters aren't.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                So what you're saying is that I got the agency wrong? Well that's certainly put me in my place....

                Doesn't change the fact that they're randomly tested year round. American fighters are not. I heard Eddie Hearn speak about VADA testing British fighters in an interview the other day.
                VADA vs. UKAD is a HUGE difference. Them knowing that UKAD tests them is a big deal. It helps them to believe and understand you when you say they are testing randomly year-round. But when you say VADA, because they know VADA does no such thing for British boxers and hardly even does it for US boxers, they think you are full of ****.

                Eddie Hearn may have spoken about VADA because if the fight is happening in the U.S., and there's probably complications with UKAD doing it. So it would probably be better if VADA did it, or maybe USADA. That would be my guess. It doesn't change the fact though that VADA does not test Brook and have never tested Brook. That is all done by UKAD.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
                  VADA vs. UKAD is a HUGE difference. Them knowing that UKAD tests them is a big deal. It helps them to believe and understand you when you say they are testing randomly year-round. But when you say VADA, because they know VADA does no such thing for British boxers and hardly even does it for US boxers, they think you are full of ****.

                  Eddie Hearn may have spoken about VADA because if the fight is happening in the U.S., and there's probably complications with UKAD doing it. So it would probably be better if VADA did it, or maybe USADA. That would be my guess. It doesn't change the fact though that VADA does not test Brook and have never tested Brook. That is all done by UKAD.
                  It was nothing to do with the Brook-Porter fight. He mentioned that he was proud of the drug testing system in the UK and mentioned VADA. And that it was a concern that America doesn't have a similar system in place.

                  I'll try to find the interview.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                    Interview with Brook's promoter, Eddie Hearn, from last week. Skip to 13.00



                    Hearn mentions he asked for random drug testing in the terms of contract.

                    Could this be the reason that Team Porter is stalling on singing it? Are they shook by this condition?

                    We all saw how Porter, who'd been a fairly ho-hum run of the mill fighter until recently, suddenly looked like a mini Tyson against Malignaggi.

                    Paulie himself was shocked and said he'd never been hit like that before. He ended up with a brain bleed if I'm not mistaken. He said he'd not been concerned about Porter's power before because he hadn't really KO'd anybody. He seemed to be intimating that Porter might be on something.

                    And perhaps most importantly, Porter is American.....so there's that.
                    You do know Porter has recently worked with Victor Conte, including the malignaggi fight.

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                    • #80
                      No. He didn't sign yet because he is in talks with Floyd, not because he's on roids.

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