Eye damage in boxing

[Gigantes]

Are there any protocols to when a fight gets stopped due to eye damage? 2 weeks in a row now we got to see a person's eye really get messed up. I was wondering when do the doctors step in. I ask because last week, Algieri, in New York, had a real messed up eye yet was allowed to continue, however; in Margarito vs Cotto 2, Margarito's eye didn't seem as bad/not worse than Algieri's, and yet they stopped that fight but not Algieri's.

It looks as if New York does some home cooking. Algieri got have been called off but they let him continue, and Margarito was clearly having his best round and coming on a fading Cotto, and Doctors stopped it (why too because it wasn't like Margarito wasn't answering their questions correctly- every question he was asked, he answered correctly and yet they still stopped it).

[FeFist]

There was concern surrounding Margarito's eye before the fight took place, as his orbital bone got ****ed up and he required surgery to reposition his lens; those are pretty big distinguishing factors.

[ИATAS]

There was massive concern regarding Margaritos eye before the fight and he only got medically cleared just days before fight night. All eyes were on Tony's eye that night. Totally different circumstances

[CASA DE COMBATE]

Absolutely right, the Nysac is very inconsistent to say the least. The knee brace recently in the Cotto/ Martinez fight was another lets make up rules as we go type. Even fighters calling the shots on which gloves you can and can't wear nowadays.

[Gigantes]

There was concern surrounding Margarito's eye before the fight took place, as his orbital bone got ****ed up and he required surgery to reposition his lens; those are pretty big distinguishing factors.

There was massive concern regarding Margaritos eye before the fight and he only got medically cleared just days before fight night. All eyes were on Tony's eye that night. Totally different circumstances

understandable, yet why did they stop it when the fighter was still able to continue, on top of that, answer EVERY question he was given.

There'd be no question in stopping it had they been asking Tony questions and he was unable to answer them, but he was, so what was the problem?



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looking at those, how can one say one is in worse shape than the other (just looking at there it looks like Chris' is worse

[Masterclass775]

Algeri was in the fight while AM was taking a lot of punishment that plus the circumstances concerning the eye prefight

[FeFist]

understandable, yet why did they stop it when the fighter was still able to continue, on top of that, answer EVERY question he was given.

There'd be no question in stopping it had they been asking Tony questions and he was unable to answer them, but he was, so what was the problem?



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looking at those, how can one say one is in worse shape than the other (just looking at there it looks like Chris' is worse

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Going into the Margarito fight, they were already skating on thin ice. Had Margarito been severely injured questions would have been asked about why the fight was made in the first place and why they didn't, at the least, show an appropriate amount of caution.

It's apples and oranges to Algirie's situations, where there were no questions about his safety.

Seriously, it is just a case of common sense. Certain factors will rightfully influence when a referee stops the fight, an example would be experience: when one fighter is put up as cannon fodder, referees usually stop the fight at the first sign of danger.

( There's also a difference in what each fighters had to offer. Margarito was way behind in the fight. You speak as though he was coming on, but I remember watching the fight and at no point did I believe Cotto was in a position where he'd let the fight slip.)

[spytactics]

Its called being "margarito'd." When your eye puffs itself closed because your defense is to block countless punches with your face. Unfortunately there are no set rules as when to stop a fight due to swelling. It is up to the ref, ring doctors, and a fighters corner to know when enough is enough. in hindsight its easy to say marg was coming back...

[Gigantes]

Algeri was in the fight while AM was taking a lot of punishment that plus the circumstances concerning the eye prefight

What and Tony wasn't making it a fight? Did you see Cotto's face? Did you see Tony have his best round of the fight? Did you see Cotto once again starting to fade? How was Tony not making it a fight.

Well if you don't agree, well we should feel sorry for Chris then because the Doctor's f'ed him over and allowed him to continue with that eye so who knows how his eye will hold up now vs someone else who manages to tag it as well (same goes for Robert from last night)

If Doctors say they want to protect fighters, then stop the fights instead of letting things get out of hand and give a protocol. Stopping one fight while not stopping others isn't right

[Gigantes]

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Going into the Margarito fight, they were already skating on thin ice. Had Margarito been severely injured questions would have been asked about why the fight was made in the first place and why they didn't, at the least, show an appropriate amount of caution.

It's apples and oranges to Algirie's situations, where there were no questions about his safety.

Seriously, it is just a case of common sense. Certain factors will rightfully influence when a referee stops the fight, an example would be experience: when one fighter is put up as cannon fodder, referees usually stop the fight at the first sign of danger.

( There's also a difference in what each fighters had to offer. Margarito was way behind in the fight. You speak as though he was coming on, but I remember watching the fight and at no point did I believe Cotto was in a position where he'd let the fight slip.)

What you're saying is fine, but the FACT that Tony answered everything the doctor asked, shows no reason to stop it (especially since the actual man is the one who's participating and willing).

Tony made it a fight and while he was down, he DID have his best round and Cotto has been shown to fade late in the rounds (rounds they were approaching). Would Cotto have let it slip, maybe not, but you can't say that there's no possibility that it couldn't have slipped as well, after seeing as how he had it in the first fight then let it slip.