Why is it the only ones who don't want Cold War to end are Floyd fans?

[Evol]

1. just because they dont work with arum doesnt mean they just do in house fights, there are several promoters out there and the only one they arent willing to work with is arum.

2. a lot of things are arums fault. he is a businessman just like shaeffer, they both want to make the most money with the least amount of risk and they both got in the way of some great fights. but nobody more so than arum. who kept gamboa-juanma from happening when everyone wanted it? that was an in house fight, could have easily been made but it didnt fit arums agenda. there are plenty of other examples as well.

floyd doesnt want to work with him out of personal animosity. he said years ago when he left arum that he would never help make him another dime. its petty but its his choice and i can kind of understand it. if i couldnt stand someone i wouldnt want to risk my health so he could earn millions of dollars. naturally i wish he would put his ego aside, im not saying im glad he is thinking like that. but im man enough to be honest about how i would react if i was in floyds shoes.

3. like blaming the white man? really? gtfo

thats not true, floyd left bob way before 2009. so u're telling me there was never any negotiation in 09 for the fight between floyd and pac? it wasnt until the end of 2012 to early 2013 when floyd says he will never work with arum again. and can u answer this for me? ---

one thing i find funny is that when floyd says he will never work with bob and TR, the floyd fans jump up in joy. but when arum says the same that he will never work with shaeffer, all of a sudden arum is ruining boxing, he's the devil? can someone explain this to me? and before anyone says anything, NO, i am not defending arum!

[Evol]

one thing i find funny is that when floyd says he will never work with bob and TR, the floyd fans jump up in joy. but when arum says the same that he will never work with shaeffer, all of a sudden arum is ruining boxing, he's the devil? can someone explain this to me? and before anyone says anything, NO, i am not defending arum!

Bumpity...

[Divine Hammer]

If arum does an in house fight its boring and predictable.
If Haymon/schaefer do an in house fight and it's a smart business move.

How does that not make sense?

hahahaaha this.

[Rip Chudd]

Actually the cold war was started by Golden Boy mainly Richard, they stole Pac away from under Arum while Arum still had options on Pac, Pac signed that contract before the Morales 3 fight.

Richard and Oscar only apologized when Floyd retired, that should tell you something. That is because they had no more star to carry their company. So Richard faked the funk and pretended to be nice to Arum only out of necessity.

Arum worked with golden boy when he didn't have to, Arum had Pavlik, Chavez Jr, canelo wasn't even around yet, Pacquiao, Cotto, Margarito,

Arum put Pacman in with mainly goldenboy fighters at the time, Barrera 2, Marquez, Oscar, and Hatton

Arum had Cotto fight Mosley, Margarito Mosley, Pavlik Hopkins etc.

Than Richard backed stabbed Pacquiao and Arum once he was able to get Floyd to comeback out of retirement. Richard started talking mad **** basically showing his true colors and saying F you I don't need you anymore showing lack of gratefulness and Arum said Fool me once shame on you and fool me twice shame on me, Arum said F this, I extended a hand to these guys for them to stab me twice.

This is why Arum refused to do business, would you do business with a guy who talked **** about you after you extended a hand to work with them?

Oscar even admit to this he said he was in the wrong about how he handled the situation. Richard just said it straight up I am not working with Arum, all the flowmos start buying into it because its so easy to BLAME ARUM because Floyd blames him so it must be true.

all promoters are the same, but Richard is the worst kind, he back stabs, and screwed Oscar his own boss over, by not signing fighters to long term contracts, the goal of a promoter is to sign a fighter to a contract, not to an adviser who doesn't work for your company.

So that should answer your question who the real culprit is here.

Sad you act like Arum had nothing to do with it and he's some sort of angel. Both companies are at fault man. Pull you head out of your ass. I mean I know you don't like Floyd or his fans(I don't like the guy myself) but this agenda you have where every other thread is about Floyd has got to stop man. There is a LOT more to boxing then that dude.

[Evol]

Sad you act like Arum had nothing to do with it and he's some sort of angel. Both companies are at fault man. Pull you head out of your ass. I mean I know you don't like Floyd or his fans(I don't like the guy myself) but this agenda you have where every other thread is about Floyd has got to stop man. There is a LOT more to boxing then that dude.

one thing i find funny is that when floyd says he will never work with bob and TR, the floyd fans jump up in joy. but when arum says the same that he will never work with shaeffer, all of a sudden arum is ruining boxing, he's the devil? can someone explain this to me? and before anyone says anything, NO, i am not defending arum!

[smoothsmg]

[QUOTE=Rip Chudd;14673000] Sad you act like Arum had nothing to do with it and he's some sort of angel. Both companies are at fault man. Pull you head out of your ass. I mean I know you don't like Floyd or his fans(I don't like the guy myself) but this agenda you have where every other thread is about Floyd has got to stop man. There is a LOT more to boxing then that dude.[/QUOTE]

The bolded is the most important. Im still baffled that people on this site are talking about a fight that didn't happen in March of 2010 and then only blame one party. WHO CARES about a "cold war," who cares if you didn't see ONE FIGHT. There have been hundreds and thousands of fights since the first negotiations went down the drain. Boxing is/has been doing fine since 2009. Last year was considered the best year in a long time by many people in boxing. We got a FoxSports card tomorrow and a great card on Shotime Saturday, as well as a card on NBCSports. Support the sport, not one particular boxer, not one particular promotion company, not one particular channel.

[Derranged]

The hardcore Floyd-Joys will defend Floyd or anyone associated with him till the death for anything, not just the "Cold War".

Its that simple, thread over.

[smoothsmg]

And what really kills me about this board, its the people that dislike Floyd the most who are making threads about him and posting in each thread where his name comes up, just to talk smack. Why do you guys waste so much energy on a guy you cant stand? Thats like me talking about Kanye West everyday.

[Deevel916]

The cold war started when HBO chose Chavez Jr/Martinez (which was the bigger and much more signficant fight over Canelo/Lopez. Shaefer caught a tantrum and took gbp over to showtime vowing to not do business with HBO anymore.

After Pac/Arum accepted Floyd's terms of drug testing and taking less money, Floyd's demands became ridiculous and came out with "Pac must joing TMT and give me some fights before I'll consider fighting him". Along with "I'll never fight Pac as long as he's associated with Arum". Funny because just a year prior Floyd claims he was trying to negoiate for a fight with Pac despite Pac being signed with Arum.

As it stands, Top Rank is willing to put on fights with any promoter whether it be Main Events, Dibella, and now GBP. Shaefer, Floyd, and Haymon have isolated themselves and refuse to do business with TR, GBP, and HBO. So who does it seem like is adding fuel to this cold war fire????

Lets also not forget about how all the Floyd fanatics were all pro GBP right until Shaefer and Floyd jumped ship. After that it was "F that coke head Oscar, etc..." The Floyd fanatics dislike Arum because Floyd dislikes Arum. No other reason.

[Rip Chudd]

one thing i find funny is that when floyd says he will never work with bob and TR, the floyd fans jump up in joy. but when arum says the same that he will never work with shaeffer, all of a sudden arum is ruining boxing, he's the devil? can someone explain this to me? and before anyone says anything, NO, i am not defending arum!

I'm with you. It's the dumbest logic(if you can even call it that) that there is. The fool was negotiating in 09 when the fight almost happened to work with Arum. Now all of a sudden he don't want to!? And that's all of a sudden ok!?