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  • Xi_
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    #51
    Originally posted by Bronx2245
    I don't think Luis Abregu would be a cherry-pick, he just won't help sell PPVs. Algeri...that's a cherry-pick!

    Check this out:

    "Who the hell is left for Manny Pacquiao to fight?

    Looking into the crystal ball, the immediate future holds a fifth fight between Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez. It***8217;s a big money fight considering that the words ***8220;knocked out***8221; accompany Google searches for Pacquiao thanks to Marquez***8217; decimation of the Filipino the last time they encountered one another in 2012.

    But then what?

    The bigger issue that the house that Bob Arum is holding together on the shaky legs of aging fighters is the lack of intriguing opponents for Pacquiao to fight. The fact that a fifth fight with Marquez has even come into play as the primary option is bad enough. But you will be hard pressed to find a name among Top Rank***8217;s welterweights that the general public will not meet with a shrug of indifference aside from Ruslan Provodnikov. If you look at the top ten welterweights and junior welterweights, you***8217;ll see that they are either Al Haymon fighters, Golden Boy fighters, Showtime fighters or a combination of all three. At 140, Danny Garcia, Lucas Matthysse and Adrien Broner would all be formidable opponents if it wasn***8217;t for the fact that they live on the other side of the fence. The same can be said for Marcos Maidana, Shawn Porter, Keith Thurman and Amir Khan at 147. If Pacquiao were to carefully venture to 154, Saul ***8220;Canelo***8221; Alvarez could be a massive fight if he was an Arum guy. But, alas, he***8217;s not.

    So what does this leave Manny Pacquiao with?

    He already beat up Brandon Rios. Mike Alvarado ***8211; who split a pair of fights with Rios ***8211; was thoroughly outclassed by old man Marquez. He***8217;s beaten Timothy Bradley once officially, although it should be twice. And***8230;that***8217;s it.

    That is really it. More importantly, there are no young welterweights on the horizon that could rise up to the challenge. Terence Crawford and Yuriorkis Gamboa are two potential names that could eventually end up with a Pacman fight. However, Gamboa***8217;s horrible business sense and the fact that Crawford could walk into a room and nobody would have a clue who he is areboth problematic .

    And considering that Pacquiao is no longer the one-sided draw like that Mayweather fellow ***8211; who has set himself up with an intriguing rematch with Maidana due to the madman's strategy or simply overlooking him the first time around ***8211; Top Rank has one hell of a task on their hands when it comes to generating casual fan interest. The moment Pac hit the deck against Marquez, the invincible aura that made him must-see television whether he was fighting a man, a Scooby Doo van or a tomato can were all shattered.

    The pay per view returns on his last two fights ***8211; Brandon Rios and Timothy Bradley ***8211; were disappointing with Rios selling 500k and Bradley hovering around 750k. The gate on his rematch with Bradley ended up being his lowest in years. Arum won***8217;t admit it, but he certainly is panicking. Without another marquee name in his stable to match Pac with, those PPV numbers could continue to drop."

    http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...manny-pacquiao
    abregu might not be a cherrypick but it's **** fight. pac literally has no one that he can fight that would be accepted by the public unless he moves up a weight division and fights canelo.
    Last edited by Xi_; 06-17-2014, 10:29 AM.

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    • Evol
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      #52
      Originally posted by Xi_
      a perfect example of someone putting a lost behing them is the carl froch-andre ward situation...pac has NOT put that ko lost behind him...marquez is 40 yr old.....i admit he is fighting for money(which is the only reason he is entertaining a pac fight) and a fifth belt.....but if marquez had the opportunity to fight porter for his title, i think he'd be happy with his career and retire!!! He already beat the **** outta pac and he ain't the one being rapped by two governments. marquez has the leverage.
      what leverage again?? team pac is still the one telling marquez what to do not the other way around LOL. if marquez wanted to keep the feeling he would have walked away already, so who needs the money more? LOL!! pac hasnt put that KO lost behind him so he wants to get KO again thats why he's chasing after marquez right? smart logic LOL!!

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      • Bronx2245
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        #53
        Originally posted by Xi_
        abregu might not be a cherrypick but it's **** fight. pac literally has no one that he can fight that would be accepted by the public unless he moves up a weight division and fights canelo.
        Manny might have a chance at a mega-fight this year if Arum can convince the winner of Crawford vs. Gamboa to move up and fight Manny at 140. Other than that, it's time to start kissing asses, starting with JMM and Al Haymon.

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        • Twako
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          #54
          Originally posted by Bronx2245
          Marquez wasn't making big money. He felt he's been robbed by judges a few times. Then he knocks Manny the **** out in the fourth fight. He knows Manny needs a worthy opponent for a PPV, and right now he's the only worthy opponent that is not signed with Al Haymon. That's why JMM is stalling. That's called using leverage.
          lol. pac could make his guarantee 20M fighting anyone else and leave jmm out in the cold on hbo's bad again.

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          • radiotracer
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            #55
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            The $20 million is reallyt a 50/50 split. That's what JMM wants, a 50/50 split (Pac was going to get $30 mil, and JMM $10 mil). I think he deserves it. Pac doesn't sell well w/o JMM, and JMM did knock Pac the **** out in the last match. $20 million a piece sounds fair.
            marquez should have asked for 20 million after the KO but instead he loses to bradley whom pac has beaten twice. You gotta strike while the iron is hot. Marquez has a bad history with boxers ie Chris John, bradley and mayweather. Pac doesn't need marquez to get a ppv fight.

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            • Bronx2245
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              #56
              Originally posted by Twako
              lol. pac could make his guarantee 20M fighting anyone else and leave jmm out in the cold on hbo's bad again.
              The only problem is finding that "anyone else." If it's Chris Algeri or Luis Abregu, Manny might have to go back to HBO B.A.D. himself. Without fighting an Al Haymon fighter, who else do you see that's a PPV worthy opponent?

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              • Bronx2245
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                #57
                Originally posted by radiotracer
                marquez should have asked for 20 million after the KO but instead he loses to bradley whom pac has beaten twice. You gotta strike while the iron is hot. Marquez has a bad history with boxers ie Chris John, bradley and mayweather. Pac doesn't need marquez to get a ppv fight.
                Name 2 opponents (not Haymon fighters) that are PPV worthy opponents.

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                • ShoulderRoll
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Evol
                  yet pac will still make $20mil fighting a bum. so im not sure where ur going with this. as for marquez how much will he make fighting anyone else not name manny?
                  How long do you think they are going to pay Manny $20 million a fight if he is getting in the ring with the likes of Abregu and Algieri?

                  Face it. Pacquiao is in desperate need of an opponent who is a draw. That's why Marquez has leverage and can hold out for a 50/50 split.

                  It's a shame that Oscar got all soft because right now Top Rank is on the ropes. Schaefer's strategy was about to win GBP the Cold War.

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                  • joemama
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                    #59
                    Marquez has outpriced himself. Sounds like a Mayweather trick.

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                    • Bronx2245
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      How long do you think they are going to pay Manny $20 million a fight if he is getting in the ring with the likes of Abregu and Algieri?

                      Face it. Pacquiao is in desperate need of an opponent who is a draw. That's why Marquez has leverage and can hold out for a 50/50 split.

                      It's a shame that Oscar got all soft because right now Top Rank is on the ropes. Schaefer's strategy was about to win GBP the Cold War.
                      There's a new thread. Arum says Algeri is possible, Danny Garcia is NOT POSSIBLE. JMM is getting closer to that $20 million by the minute. 60/40 (Manny 24, Marquez 16) might do the trick.

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