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  • JoartCC
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    #91
    Originally posted by moy22487
    pacman is great puncher like tito. but both there d-fence are questionable its not to far out to say that a complete boxer will beat him. maybe not as bad as tito was beat but still
    Still? Who? In your most logical mind. DO you think you Barrera can beat PAC. PAC has the reach, speed, power, stamina, the southpaw stance, the better chin, the faster hands, the better footwork, just about everything. lol! Plus add also that PAC is young as a stud and Barrera is old like a spinster. If Barrera can't beat PAC when MAB was still in his prime, how the hell will he beat PAC now that he has all these really sick moves in his arsenal.

    Also, do you really think JMM can stand up to PAC. Again, reach, speed, power, footwork, stamina, chin is in PAC's favor. PAC has proven that he can beat slick boxers when he destroyed EM who has an iron chin. What's the chance of the glass chined JMM to even last 6 rounds now that PAC has found newfound moves and is STILL PEAKING.

    Those are BASIC COMMON SENSE questions.

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    • Bozo_no no
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      #92
      Originally posted by moy22487
      you dont think that every mexican wants another mexican boxer to beat the guy who beat leganary boxers? not just mexicans but also mexican americans and other latinos who dont have fighters of there own so they support mexican fighter

      Not enough that it becomes a bargaining chip and deal breaker allowing you to walk away from three times more money than you've ever made, and an opportunity to set up more paydays like that down the road.

      Nothing justifies turning down the opportunity he was offered to fight in relative obsecurity. That's what you're not getting.

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      • moy22487
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        #93
        Originally posted by JoartCC
        Still? Who? In your most logical mind. DO you think you Barrera can beat PAC. PAC has the reach, speed, power, stamina, the southpaw stance, the better chin, the faster hands, the better footwork, just about everything. lol! Plus add also that PAC is young as a stud and Barrera is old like a spinster. If Barrera can't beat PAC when MAB was still in his prime, how the hell will he beat PAC now that he has all these really sick moves in his arsenal.
        Originally posted by JoartCC

        Also, do you really think JMM can stand up to PAC. Again, reach, speed, power, footwork, stamina, chin is in PAC's favor. PAC has proven that he can beat slick boxers when he destroyed EM who has an iron chin. What's the chance of the glass chined JMM to even last 6 rounds now that PAC has found newfound moves and is STILL PEAKING.

        Those are BASIC COMMON SENSE questions.
        first who ever said Barrera??????? jmm can beat him he has been working on moves what he needs to work on is his D

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        • JoartCC
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          #94
          Originally posted by moy22487
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          first who ever said Barrera??????? jmm can beat him he has been working on moves what he needs to work on is his D
          I just added Barrera to augment my argument. Although I admit it's just a side argument.

          But the fact is, JMM walked out of the rematch. There is really no logic why he would turn down 750,000 dollars to fight PAC and opt for 20-50 k fighting bums. Of course, if you use common sense. JMM is afraid of PAC that's why he backed out of the rematch.

          Those are simple facts which are really not for debate.

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          • hellfire508
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            #95
            Pacquiao is not one-dimensional nowadays.

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            • moy22487
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              #96
              Originally posted by hellfire508
              Pacquiao is not one-dimensional nowadays.
              but still lacks major d skills

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              • JoartCC
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                #97
                Originally posted by moy22487
                but still lacks major d skills
                PAC showed towards the latter rounds that he has the skill to be a strong defensive player. He has the reflexes and speed to do that. From rounds 7-10, EM is hardly landing any clean punches at all.

                Defense can be worked on. PAC's natural gifts can't. Either you have it or you don't.

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                • Manny_P
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                  #98
                  hope not. Manny has too big of a heart to lose by blowout like the way Tito did gainst Hop and Wink. Just watch at the Marquez fight. He was gettin outboxed, but he came back in the late rounds. And a poor Pac performance at that. He only threw one hand. LITERRALY.

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                  • moy22487
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by JoartCC
                    PAC showed towards the latter rounds that he has the skill to be a strong defensive player. He has the reflexes and speed to do that. From rounds 7-10, EM is hardly landing any clean punches at all.

                    Defense can be worked on. PAC's natural gifts can't. Either you have it or you don't.
                    isnt manilla ice something that was worked on?? the reason em didnt land much is because he was on weak knees because of pac offence not his D. the best D is a grea offence but not when your offence attackes are being blocked

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                    • JoartCC
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Manny_P
                      hope not. Manny has too big of a heart to lose by blowout like the way Tito did gainst Hop and Wink. Just watch at the Marquez fight. He was gettin outboxed, but he came back in the late rounds. And a poor Pac performance at that. He only threw one hand. LITERRALY.
                      The cavalry has arrived. lol!

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