Who won Provodnikov vs Algieri?

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  • strykr619
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    #61
    Originally posted by Trayhezy
    What "punishment"? Ruslan had one great round. He was wild and head hunting the remainder of the fight.

    He was outworked and outlanded. Boxing is not judged on whose face is more swollen.
    3% difference in punch output is not being outworked.

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    • badass316
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      #62
      Originally posted by PBP
      Ruslans aggressiveness was not effective, Algeiri controlled the fight and he landed more cleaner, effective shots.


      I swear people watch fights and just score like

      1. Ruslan punch hard doe
      2 Ruslan punch hard doe
      3 Ruslan punch hard doe
      4 Ruslan punch hard doe

      And then wonder why their 117-109 cards are flat out ridiculous
      Ruslan was coming forward the entire fight. Algieri did nothing to deter Ruslan from coming forward, so how exactly was he controlling the fight? And he wasn't just coming forward for the sake of it, he was actually doing something.

      He most certainly did not land the more clean and effective shots. That is utterly ridiculous. You and I saw two completely different fights if you thought Algieri landed the more effective shots.

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      • -PBP-
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        #63
        Originally posted by badass316
        Ruslan was coming forward the entire fight. Algieri did nothing to deter Ruslan from coming forward, so how exactly was he controlling the fight? And he wasn't just coming forward for the sake of it, he was actually doing something.

        He most certainly did not land the more clean and effective shots. That is utterly ridiculous. You and I saw two completely different fights if you thought Algieri landed the more effective shots.
        He was coming forward because he is one dimensional and that's all he knows how to do. But rule #1 is you don't score points for coming forward.

        And while moving forward he was getting peppered with jabs and once he closed the distance Algeiri would mix up his attack and move out of the way. He had Provodnikov off balance for most of the fight. Ruslan was frustrated the entire fight because he didn't know what to do when he closed distance.

        If it weren't for the 2 KD's in round 1 this fight would not have been close.

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        • 1hourRun
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          #64
          I called it a draw.I have no problem with the decision ; whenever a guy can outbox you with one eye chances are you lost.

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          • The Problem Child
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            #65
            There is no way in hell ANY of the people claiming Algieri won can list me 8 clear rounds that he got. There is no way he won that fight, specially after getting dropped twice. I gave him 4 rounds, 5 bring as generous as one could be.

            Roberry last night for the hometown amateur.

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            • hitman smax
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              #66
              Originally posted by badass316
              It's come down to if you land more punches, no matter how soft they may be, you win.
              Clearly Algieri is not a big power puncher, but his punches consistently snapped Provo's head back.

              Do you think "soft punches" were snapping Provo's head back?

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              • badass316
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                #67
                Originally posted by PBP
                He was coming forward because he is one dimensional and that's all he knows how to do. But rule #1 is you don't score points for coming forward.

                And while moving forward he was getting peppered with jabs and once he closed the distance Algeiri would mix up his attack and move out of the way. He had Provodnikov off balance for most of the fight. Ruslan was frustrated the entire fight because he didn't know what to do when he closed distance.

                If it weren't for the 2 KD's in round 1 this fight would not have been close.
                He was coming forward because that's what he does regardless of whose in front of him. Coming forward is part of effective aggression, which is one of the criteria's of boxing. And like I said, he wasn't coming forward just for the sake of it, he was actually doing work.

                Sorry, but him getting peppered with pitty pat range finders is not effective clean punching, maybe in the amateurs but not here. He didn't move away nearly as much as you would think. He sat on the ropes more than a few times when Prov cut the ring off and got hit with punches that moved him.

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                • badass316
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by hitman smax
                  Clearly Algieri is not a big power puncher, but his punches consistently snapped Provo's head back.

                  Do you think "soft punches" were snapping Provo's head back?
                  I never said he didn't land any effective shots. The majority of them however were meaningless punches, hence why I gave rounds to Prov even when compubox indicated he was out landed.

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                  • Croyd
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Golovkin
                    There is no way in hell ANY of the people claiming Algieri won can list me 8 clear rounds that he got. There is no way he won that fight, specially after getting dropped twice. I gave him 4 rounds, 5 bring as generous as one could be.

                    Roberry last night for the hometown amateur.
                    I only had Algerie winning 4 rounds as well. Pretty much the same scorecard as the judge that gave it to Ruslan. It's a shame that they gifted Algerie the win with his mediocre grazing shots.
                    It's a shame the Ruslan didn't stay on the body work, it was what got him the KD in the first , he really is one of the dumbest boxers around, I love him though.

                    Ruslan sends another guy to the hospital and earns himself another loss.

                    What orafice of Algerie's body isn't leaking blood today?
                    Eye- yes
                    Nose- yes
                    Mouth-yes
                    Peeing blood - yes
                    Rectum - yes

                    At least he isn't bleeding out of the ears.

                    SMH , Algeri won doe.
                    Last edited by Croyd; 06-15-2014, 07:47 AM.

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                    • RetroSpeed05
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by badass316
                      He was coming forward because that's what he does regardless of whose in front of him. Coming forward is part of effective aggression, which is one of the criteria's of boxing. And like I said, he wasn't coming forward just for the sake of it, he was actually doing work.

                      Sorry, but him getting peppered with pitty pat range finders is not effective clean punching, maybe in the amateurs but not here. He didn't move away nearly as much as you would think. He sat on the ropes more than a few times when Prov cut the ring off and got hit with punches that moved him.
                      Coming forward and doing what? getting his head snapped back everytime Algieri jabbed. Also when Algieri got on the ropes he smothered Ruslans punches or cliched and then pivoted out the way he also threw some uppercuts and hooks to the body, so no Ruslan was not that effective with his aggression.

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