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  • #31
    Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
    He did fight Margarito, so I know he has. Don't get mad at me, Freddie Roach says your boy is too small for bigger WWs, and he needs to go back to 140. He must know something we don't. That's why they are looking at Ruslan and Danny Garcia because they both fight at 140.
    It's simple picking an choosing the "right" opponent. Even for Freddy and Pac. They act like they're only looking to fight the best, but they are selective like any fighter/team who makes it to a high level.

    Roach says someone is too big, but they fought Clottey and Margarito. Both naturally bigger, but deemed the "right" opponent for an in and out Manny. Freddy and Arum are doing their job trying to match Manny vs guys he can beat. Margarito was about fighting a bigger guy, who is there to take punches, but to say he's fighting at Jr. Middleweight even if at a catchweight. It's all business.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by PRBOXINGCOTTO View Post
      Cotto was the hardest fight for floyd sorry madaina no rematch I think floyd goes after some1 else thst were not expecting
      Not even close. Cotto won about 3 rounds. Castillo won between 5 and 7.

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      • #33
        If he doesn't get a rematch its his own fault ,with all the illegal tactics he used. Knees low blows ,rabbit punches.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Evol View Post
          whos the bigger WW that freddie is talking about? LOL!! hope u're not referring to freddie's comments about canelo at 152 is still too big for manny because canelo is not a WW.

          Roach feels that the 35-year-old Pacquiao will do much better at light welterweight where he previously knocked out Ricky Hatton in 2009. The only fighters that Pacquiao has knocked out in the welterweight division were Miguel Cotto and a weight-drained Oscar De La Hoya, who was at the very end of his career when he took that fight.

          “Manny Pacquiao – he’s not a great puncher at 147 like everyone thinks,” Roach said to maxboxing. “Everyone says he’s not getting the knockouts like with Hatton and those knockouts were at 135 and 140. I’m going to ask him if we can fight at 140 because that’s a better weight for him. He has no trouble making 140…he’s fighting these bigger, stronger guys. Bradley was at least 160 going into that ring.”

          Roach might want to run this by Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum, because I have a feeling that he’s not going to like the idea of Pacquiao moving down to 140, where Arum is thin in terms of having big name fighters in his stable. By having Pacquiao stay at 147, Arum can match him in another pot of gold fight against Juan Manuel Marquez. But if Pacquiao moves back down to 140, Arum’s options for him consist of Jessie Vargas, Khabib Allakhverdiev, Brandon Rios and Ruslan Provodnikov. None of those guys would likely bring in more than 450, 000 to 500,000 pay-per-view buys at best. I see Arum vetoing Roach’s idea of having Pacquiao move down to the light welterweight or lightweight divisions to try and extend his career.


          Read more at http://www.************.com/2014/04/...5AZLEXfFYrQ.99

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          • #35
            Originally posted by TyrantT316 View Post
            It's simple picking an choosing the "right" opponent. Even for Freddy and Pac. They act like they're only looking to fight the best, but they are selective like any fighter/team who makes it to a high level.

            Roach says someone is too big, but they fought Clottey and Margarito. Both naturally bigger, but deemed the "right" opponent for an in and out Manny. Freddy and Arum are doing their job trying to match Manny vs guys he can beat. Margarito was about fighting a bigger guy, who is there to take punches, but to say he's fighting at Jr. Middleweight even if at a catchweight. It's all business.
            You and I know this (and Freddie Roach), but many peoiple (Evol) have a problem with Freddie admitting it to the public.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
              Roach feels that the 35-year-old Pacquiao will do much better at light welterweight where he previously knocked out Ricky Hatton in 2009. The only fighters that Pacquiao has knocked out in the welterweight division were Miguel Cotto and a weight-drained Oscar De La Hoya, who was at the very end of his career when he took that fight.

              “Manny Pacquiao – he’s not a great puncher at 147 like everyone thinks,” Roach said to maxboxing. “Everyone says he’s not getting the knockouts like with Hatton and those knockouts were at 135 and 140. I’m going to ask him if we can fight at 140 because that’s a better weight for him. He has no trouble making 140…he’s fighting these bigger, stronger guys. Bradley was at least 160 going into that ring.”

              Roach might want to run this by Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum, because I have a feeling that he’s not going to like the idea of Pacquiao moving down to 140, where Arum is thin in terms of having big name fighters in his stable. By having Pacquiao stay at 147, Arum can match him in another pot of gold fight against Juan Manuel Marquez. But if Pacquiao moves back down to 140, Arum’s options for him consist of Jessie Vargas, Khabib Allakhverdiev, Brandon Rios and Ruslan Provodnikov. None of those guys would likely bring in more than 450, 000 to 500,000 pay-per-view buys at best. I see Arum vetoing Roach’s idea of having Pacquiao move down to the light welterweight or lightweight divisions to try and extend his career.


              Read more at http://www.************.com/2014/04/...5AZLEXfFYrQ.99
              again, who are these bigger WWs that roach is talking about?? u posted an article on why roach thinks pac aint getting any KO's..

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                I wouldn't mind seeing Pac vs. Maidana, but Freddie Roach isn't crazy, he don't want Manny fighting a big, strong, WW like Maidana. He's already stated that if he can fight a GBP fighter, his choice is Danny Garcia. He doesn't want Khan, Maidana, or Canelo.
                i dont see roach mentiong anything about maidana???? nothing about strong big WW?? all he said was manny is not a big puncher at 147. reaching much? LOL

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by PRBOXINGCOTTO View Post
                  Cotto was the hardest fight for floyd sorry madaina no rematch I think floyd goes after some1 else thst were not expecting
                  no way, cotto was almost out due to an uppercut (and we know may can't punch), in the later rounds floyd went for it. chino can make a case for a draw at least, especially for what he did in the first half.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Evol View Post
                    again, who are these bigger WWs that roach is talking about?? u posted an article on why roach thinks pac aint getting any KO's..
                    If he's going to ask him to move down because "he's fighting bigger and stronger guys" like Bradley, who he says was "160," what would make you think he would want Manny to fight Maidana, who was 165? This is why Roach is talking about Danny Garcia, and Arum is talking about Ruslan or Chris Algeri.

                    http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...iao-vs-algieri

                    I know you already know all of this, so why are you acting surprised or offended by any of this?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Evol View Post
                      i dont see roach mentiong anything about maidana???? nothing about strong big WW?? all he said was manny is not a big puncher at 147. reaching much? LOL
                      You won't see him mentioning anything about Maidana either. Who have you heard him mentioning? That's right Ruslan and Danny Garcia, both are Jr. Welterweights looking to move up, or fight Manny at 140, just like JMM, Rios, Hatton, etc.

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