Duran did it!!! Why can't Pac move up in weight?

[-Kev-]

Pac started at a lower weight class than Duran. Pacquiao at 147 is the equivalent of Duran finishing his career at 168.

Why can't a fighter who has fought in 8 different divisions move up even more? Is that a serious question?

What gets me is "Look at Cotto fighting at 160, I bet Floyd wouldn't do that". Like they don't understand that Cotto started 2 full weight classes above where Mayweather started, so it's only natural that Cotto goes up to even a catchweight between 160-168(164-165lbs) to = Mayweather's rise to 154.

[bojangles1987]

Pac started at a lower weight class than Duran. Pacquiao at 147 is the equivalent of Duran finishing his career at 168.



What gets me is "Look at Cotto fighting at 160, I bet Floyd wouldn't do that". Like they don't understand that Cotto started 2 full weight classes above where Mayweather started, so it's only natural that Cotto goes up to even a catchweight between 160-168(164-165lbs) to = Mayweather's rise to 154.

I mean, would I love to see either Pac or Floyd try for a title at 160? Of course, it could be amazing. But neither guy weighs even 154 on fight night. Why on earth would anyone expect or demand them to move up again?

If people want to call for Floyd to defend his 154 title, that's fine since he still holds it, but otherwise chill out.

[PopPop]

I don't think his body could carry anymore weight than it has ,why not just fight 168 while he's at it ,unless you been in the ring full time you don't understand.

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

Why are you only attacking Pac and Floyd though, see where it shows your hate? why only Pac and Floyd? Why only them, why? also I bet you criticized Pac and Floyd for fighting Maidana and Bradley and Rios, saying why are they fighting blown up junior welters?

Why not say Bradley, Garcia, Rigo, etc should move up to prove greatness? see your bias.

Yet you won't say why is that middleweight fighting blown up feathers in Pac and Floyd?

see yoru double standard and bias? your opinion holds no weight in this argument.

you are Biased, why only hold Pac and Floyd to those standards, its like you are holding onto the past and refuse for others to be great.

Pac and Floyd climbed enough divisions, if you were a fair you would discredit the middleweight who beats them. just like you discredit Pac and Floyd for beating a guy at 147 who just moved up from 140, but no you won't.

They don't need to go up in weight, your reply is flawed and bias, that would mean Ricardo Finito lopez is a joke because he didnt move up, Marvin Hagler never moved up and his biggest wins are against blown up welters and lightweights.

But you only criticize Pac and Floyd.

All Pac and Floyd should do is fight the best guys in their division, where they are 100 percent capable.

Wow dude. Have a snickers bro. Look man you can write "hate" and "bias" fifty times that doesnt mean its true. Criticism is not hate. And when you have a discussion with someone its best not to put words in their mouth and make wild assumptions.

I criticize Pac and Floyd because they've been the two best and most popular fighters for 10 years and because you mentioned them. They are considered the best of this era so why not compare them to the past welter champs? Thats what boxing is all about and, ****, they compare themselves all the time with "historic" divisional titles.

So my question is simple..why should we give their "historic" careers a pass when other champs before them made the leap. I mean, as a fan, wouldnt you want to see these fights? Dont we want to see our fav fighters challenge themselves and make great fights. I for one, dont care if they lose trying.

[L3TH4L]

Because I'm not better than Duran or Pacquiao,
Therefore I don't expect to challenge myself like the greats.
I'm nothing but a failed self-esteem project.

Please disregard my inferior attitude towards men who are superior to me in every aspect of life.

I completely agree with you one-hundred percent!

[-Kev-]

So my question is simple..why should we give their "historic" careers a pass when other champs before them made the leap. I mean, as a fan, wouldnt you want to see these fights? Dont we want to see our fav fighters challenge themselves and make great fights. I for one, dont care if they lose trying.

They already made the leap. Talking about it's simple, it's simple math. Let me post it down for you.

Up to where they won major title:

Sugar Ray Leonard: 147-175lbs: 28lbs
Roberto Duran - 126 -168 - 42lbs
Tommy Hearns - 147 - 175lbs - 28lbs
Manny Pacquiao - 106 - 150lbs - 44lbs
Floyd Mayweather Jr - 130-154 - 24lbs
Oscar De La Hoya - 130-160 - 30lbs
Henry Armstrong - 126 - 147 - 21lbs

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

They already made the leap. Talking about it's simple, it's simple math. Let me post it down for you.

Up to where they won major title:

Sugar Ray Leonard: 147-175lbs: 28lbs
Roberto Duran - 126 -168 - 42lbs
Tommy Hearns - 147 - 175lbs - 28lbs
Manny Pacquiao - 106 - 150lbs - 44lbs
Floyd Mayweather Jr - 130-154 - 24lbs
Oscar De La Hoya - 130-160 - 30lbs
Henry Armstrong - 126 - 147 - 21lbs

That is a useful post. Looks like a wide range of weights. Looks like someone can move up to 160.

[Daddy T]

op is obviously just some newbie casual fan who doesn't even know they have already moved up through a load of divisions

[Showtime..]

I agree with OP.... he did it 8 times... why not 9? What is he hiding?

I mean, he already started his career close to MW... Pac just scared

Wtf is with that Sig haha

[JaYDeuce11]

Lmfao No lie i think Pac could take Hopkins...hell hes freaken 50 years old, pretty sure at that age pac could take his power even at that weight difference.
WIsh Pac would take one more ballsy fight, which he hasnt done in a longgg tiime since Margarito (or even say De La Hoya/Cotto)