Sergio's knee surgery

**The Problem Child** · 06-10-2014, 03:27 PM

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**bopbopbbe** · 06-10-2014, 03:31 PM

""He was never fully recovered from the knee surgery," said DiBella, noting that the injury made it very hard for Martinez to plant his feet. "The knee was OK early in the training camp but it wasn't perfect. But with three weeks left in camp, it got much worse. He probably would have postponed the fight if was in a normal arena. He was damaged goods going in against Murray.""

He had another 2 surgeries during the 14 month period before the Cotto fight. At 40 years old.

Just for reference NBA players play like **** after any sort of serious injury.

The difference is boxers are being punched by another person and dont have benchtime to rest.

The guy was a cripple by the time he was in the ring with Cotto. Get over it nobody with a brain thinks Cotto beat Martinez at even 50%.

**Curtiz** · 06-10-2014, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by Thoughts

Let's talk about Sergio's knees and his surgery. First off, lets get into the type of surgery that has been done on his knee. He had an arthroscopic procedure to repair a partially torn meniscus. Arthroscopic surgery isn't even full blown open surgery that is done for patients with severe injuries as it is just a small opening in which a small arthroscopic camera is used for repair. Second, a partially torn meniscus OR even a full blown tear of the meniscus isn't even a hardcore injury. Recovery from the injury doesn't take long as patients can begin rehab within weeks of surgery. In most cases you don't even need surgery for a partially torn meniscus to heal. Sergio elected for surgery for a better recovery.

Torn meniscus' are common injuries in sports and most common in the NBA. Why do I bring this up? Because in the NBA you need your legs to sprint up and down the court at a high level of speed and you need your legs to shoot the ball. There have been numerous NBA stars that have gone through this arthroscopic knee surgery for a torn meniscus like NBA star Chris Paul in 2010. Chris recovered from the surgery to play 80 games the very next season while making all star appearances multiple years since. Another NBA star who had the same surgery was Blake Griffin who suffered a torn meniscus in his knee while at practice for the USA Olympic team. He came back full force and has also made multiple all star teams. These are just two players of many.

Sergio Martinez has stated his knees were fine and had no effect on the outcome of the fight. From round 1 he was trying to box from the outside while circling with no signs of leg weakness. He wasn't limping, nor did he limp the entire fight which would have been a sign of bad legs. It looked as if he was scared of that left hook after being caught and seemed to not know how to deal with it which in turn flushed his game plan down the toilet. If your going to use the age excuse then stick to it but the knee excuse is old news.

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http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/meniscus-tear-symptoms

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Symptons of a "none" serious injury

You may not be able to straighten your knee

The knee can also feel "wobbly" or unstable,

or give way without warning.

especially torn ligaments, you may have increased pain, swelling, a feeling that the knee is unstable, and difficulty walking.

Pretty much saw all of that during the fight.

An example of the knee giving way far too easily would be knockdowns 2 & 3.

Sergio didn't even look dazed like somebody who got knocked half way across the ring should look.

**DoktorSleepless** · 06-10-2014, 03:42 PM

http://ri ngtv.craveonline.com/news/338259-sergio-martinez-i-feared-i-would-never-walk-again

I had a partially torn meniscus. I had a breakage in the femoral capsule, right behind the knee. I had a post-operation infection right before the [Martin] Murray fight. I had partially broken cartilage, where the cartilage became like a small saw on my tibia. I had an injury in my ligaments as well, a distension of the ligaments. I also had chondromalacia patellae, which is the injury that occurs beneath the kneecap. That's why they couldn't find an integral solution, because there were many injuries together. And recovering from that, being 39 years of age, was difficult. But thanks to the doctors I am fine.

They did some heavy treatment. They did a procedure to remove cartilage debris and other things from the meniscus area, and they had to regenerate the cartilage. They explained this to me, and it sounded a little bit extreme, but this is what they had to do. They had to provoke a series of micro-fractures on the bone, with something very similar to a needle.

The bone then begins to bleed, and the blood from the bone, depending on the time you let it remain there, either becomes bone again or becomes cartilage, depending on the time you allow the bone to remain immobile. If you allow the blood to sit there and you don't move the articulation, the blood becomes bone again. But if you move the articulation about 15 or 18 days after that, and you start moving it again and putting pressure on it, the blood becomes cartilage. And that's what they did. And during that time, I didn't move my leg but I did just enough work to create more cartilage.

**bopbopbbe** · 06-10-2014, 03:44 PM

Seriously stop, you guys are just Puerto Rican nut huggers. Nothing you guys say can be taken seriously because you have a built in bias.

**Curtiz** · 06-10-2014, 03:44 PM

Quotes from a forum of people with the same injury and recovered.

"I just tore it a few months ago in bjj and I think I am going to have get the surgery.. Everytime I go back and train and take a shot it like locks/catches and I literally cant move it at all and it hurts alot for about a minute until it resets"

"I've been in the same situation as you. Tore my meniscus playing basketball and didn't require surgery. I came back to playing basketball again 8 months after the injury and my knee swelled up after just one game"

"Did it constantly lock and just jam up when you made certain movements... I know for me its perfectly fine when I do certain things but whenever I grapple and take a shot it locks every single time"

Just a moment...

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f11/training-meniscus-tear-1502707/

**New England** · 06-10-2014, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by Thoughts

Let's talk about Sergio's knees and his surgery. First off, lets get into the type of surgery that has been done on his knee. He had an arthroscopic procedure to repair a partially torn meniscus. Arthroscopic surgery isn't even full blown open surgery that is done for patients with severe injuries as it is just a small opening in which a small arthroscopic camera is used for repair. Second, a partially torn meniscus OR even a full blown tear of the meniscus isn't even a hardcore injury. Recovery from the injury doesn't take long as patients can begin rehab within weeks of surgery. In most cases you don't even need surgery for a partially torn meniscus to heal. Sergio elected for surgery for a better recovery.

Torn meniscus' are common injuries in sports and most common in the NBA. Why do I bring this up? Because in the NBA you need your legs to sprint up and down the court at a high level of speed and you need your legs to shoot the ball. There have been numerous NBA stars that have gone through this arthroscopic knee surgery for a torn meniscus like NBA star Chris Paul in 2010. Chris recovered from the surgery to play 80 games the very next season while making all star appearances multiple years since. Another NBA star who had the same surgery was Blake Griffin who suffered a torn meniscus in his knee while at practice for the USA Olympic team. He came back full force and has also made multiple all star teams. These are just two players of many.

Sergio Martinez has stated his knees were fine and had no effect on the outcome of the fight. From round 1 he was trying to box from the outside while circling with no signs of leg weakness. He wasn't limping, nor did he limp the entire fight which would have been a sign of bad legs. It looked as if he was scared of that left hook after being caught and seemed to not know how to deal with it which in turn flushed his game plan down the toilet. If your going to use the age excuse then stick to it but the knee excuse is old news.

chris paul isn't 39

also, did chris paul look like a dinosaur in his old age? martinez did!

**TommyToughNuts** · 06-10-2014, 03:49 PM

Knee injuries are no joke. I tore my patellar tendon which resulted in my knee cap moving upwards three inches. I had to have open knee surgery since there was no other way to repair it. I'm back to playing basketball and doing the things I like doing but it took well over a year for it to feel 'normal' again. NBA player Caron Butler suffered the same injury and came back a year later. Sergio had 14 months recovery time. No excuses.

**Lords** · 06-10-2014, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by Curtiz

http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/m...-tear-symptoms

Symptons of a "none" serious injury

You may not be able to straighten your knee

The knee can also feel "wobbly" or unstable,

or give way without warning.

especially torn ligaments, you may have increased pain, swelling, a feeling that the knee is unstable, and difficulty walking.

Pretty much saw all of that during the fight.

An example of the knee giving way far too easily would be knockdowns 2 & 3.

Sergio didn't even look dazed like somebody who got knocked half way across the ring should look.

These are signs of a torn meniscus and are not relevant to the situation because Sergio already had his surgery and has healed. So what your saying here is that the surgery did absolutely nothing? In boxing if you get hit flush with a power shot your legs tend to buckle or "wobble", correct?

Sergio's knee surgery