Espinoza pulls Arum from Lomachenko/Russel Jr conference call

[Edmond Dantes]

Continually burning bridges? You do realize it was Showtime that stopped working with Top Rank. They burned that bridge with Arum, not the other way around. Arum didn't help with the boycott comments...but guess what? They have a chance right now to start rebuilding the relationship so everyone involved can start making more money, and they pull this stunt.

You've lost me there. When did Showtime stop working with Top Rank?! I don't recall them ever refusing to work with Showtime. Surely you've got your facts misinterpreted. They've got a justifiable reason for having a problem with Arum, BUT i've never witnessed them turning down a Top Rank card. You'll have to pull one up for me.

Why should it be Showtime that shows leniency and not the other way around?! In fact, it should be both. But given the comments that Arum's made up till last weekend, it's hard for them to try and be congenial with someone who's clearly a snake in the grass.

[US Dirk Killer]

LOL, Mayweather retiring next year. Showtime PPVs will be Danny Garcia in a Walmart in Philly

[Rocky Rode]

You've lost me there. When did Showtime stop working with Top Rank?! I don't recall them ever refusing to work with Showtime. Surely you've got your facts misinterpreted. They've got a justifiable reason for having a problem with Arum, BUT i've never witnessed them turning down a Top Rank card. You'll have to pull one up for me.

Why should it be Showtime that shows leniency and not the other way around?! In fact, it should be both. But given the comments that Arum's made up till last weekend, it's hard for them to try and be congenial with someone who's clearly a snake in the grass.

Bob Arum and Todd DuBeof said Showtime stopped responding to their calls and emails about fight dates. Since Espinoza got there, damn near every Showtime card has been done by GBP. Why would Top Rank want this? Do you think they wanted to limit their TV options? Stop acting so naive. They stopped working with Top Rank not the other way around.

And lol at the second paragraph. Arum agrees to help hype up a Showtime card and you think he isn't showing leniency? Top Rank and GBP are trying to end the cold war, but it seems like Espinoza is dead set on continuing it.

[Mitchell Kane]

You've lost me there. When did Showtime stop working with Top Rank?! I don't recall them ever refusing to work with Showtime. Surely you've got your facts misinterpreted. They've got a justifiable reason for having a problem with Arum, BUT i've never witnessed them turning down a Top Rank card. You'll have to pull one up for me.

Why should it be Showtime that shows leniency and not the other way around?! In fact, it should be both. But given the comments that Arum's made up till last weekend, it's hard for them to try and be congenial with someone who's clearly a snake in the grass.

“Yeah, it can be made,” said Mr. Top Rank, matter-of-factly, “but it’s gotta be on HBO because we’re banned on Showtime by [Stephen] Espinoza. So I’m certainly not looking to make him a big fight.” Espinoza, who took over for Ken Hershman (who left for HBO) back in December, is the head of Showtime’s sports department.”We’ve been banned,” he reiterated. “Sampson Lewkowicz been banned; [Lou] DiBella’s been banned because Espinoza, I mean...he’s doing things that no television executive in the 47 years I’ve been in boxing would even contemplate doing- including Ross Greenburg, who would never have thought to do anything like this.”

“Like this” being what?

“Banning suppliers because they’re doing a marquee fight like [Julio Cesar] Chavez Jr.-[Sergio] Martinez on another network,” said Arum, on the September 15th date which happens to be the same day Showtime and Golden Boy are staging a show featuring Saul “Canelo” Alvarez just a few blocks down the street in Las Vegas. “Same day as what?” asked an incredulous Arum, well aware that Golden Boy still hasn’t announced a foe for Alvarez (more on that later). “They still don’t have a fight yet.”

When reached by Maxboxing, Espinoza responded to these comments by stating. “I don’t know where [Arum] gets this stuff. I’ve never told anyone that Top Rank is banned or, for that matter, Sampson or DiBella are banned from Showtime. Now having said that, we tend to do business with people who are good partners for the network and given the choices that Top Rank has made lately and the public statements that Top Rank has recently been making, they’re not a good partner.”

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-bo...e-for-top-rank

[radioraheem]

Bob Arum and Todd DuBeof said Showtime stopped responding to their calls and emails about fight dates. Since Espinoza got there, damn near every Showtime card has been done by GBP. Why would Top Rank want this? Do you think they wanted to limit their TV options? Stop acting so naive. They stopped working with Top Rank not the other way around.

And lol at the second paragraph. Arum agrees to help hype up a Showtime card and you think he isn't showing leniency? Top Rank and GBP are trying to end the cold war, but it seems like Espinoza is dead set on continuing it.

You can't really always believe what Arum says though. A guy who says yesterday I was lying, but today I'm telling the truth.

[Edmond Dantes]

“Yeah, it can be made,” said Mr. Top Rank, matter-of-factly, “but it’s gotta be on HBO because we’re banned on Showtime by [Stephen] Espinoza. So I’m certainly not looking to make him a big fight.” Espinoza, who took over for Ken Hershman (who left for HBO) back in December, is the head of Showtime’s sports department.”We’ve been banned,” he reiterated. “Sampson Lewkowicz been banned; [Lou] DiBella’s been banned because Espinoza, I mean...he’s doing things that no television executive in the 47 years I’ve been in boxing would even contemplate doing- including Ross Greenburg, who would never have thought to do anything like this.”

“Like this” being what?

“Banning suppliers because they’re doing a marquee fight like [Julio Cesar] Chavez Jr.-[Sergio] Martinez on another network,” said Arum, on the September 15th date which happens to be the same day Showtime and Golden Boy are staging a show featuring Saul “Canelo” Alvarez just a few blocks down the street in Las Vegas. “Same day as what?” asked an incredulous Arum, well aware that Golden Boy still hasn’t announced a foe for Alvarez (more on that later). “They still don’t have a fight yet.”

When reached by Maxboxing, Espinoza responded to these comments by stating. “I don’t know where [Arum] gets this stuff. I’ve never told anyone that Top Rank is banned or, for that matter, Sampson or DiBella are banned from Showtime. Now having said that, we tend to do business with people who are good partners for the network and given the choices that Top Rank has made lately and the public statements that Top Rank has recently been making, they’re not a good partner.”

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-bo...e-for-top-rank

Read over your final bolded part again. Arum brought it upon himself for them to not do business with them.

[Rocky Rode]

You can't really always believe what Arum says though. A guy who says yesterday I was lying, but today I'm telling the truth.

He's going to do whatever is in his best financial interest and right now that's ending the cold war. Like I said, I hate Arum. He isn't trying to end the cold war for the right reasons, but he's at least trying to end it.

[Fetta]

Makes sense. Itll happen soon but there was no reason for Bob to be on this call. Would have helped if Oscar was at least available for call

[radioraheem]

He's going to do whatever is in his best financial interest and right now that's ending the cold war. Like I said, I hate Arum. He isn't trying to end the cold war for the right reasons, but he's at least trying to end it.

Is he really ending it? Or is he deceptively playing a game of divide and conquer?

[Mitchell Kane]

Read over your final bolded part again. Arum brought it upon himself for them to not do business with them.

By making a good fight with Martinez-Chavez Jr.

And SHO competed directly against it with Alvarez-Lopez on their network.