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  • #31
    Originally posted by Edmond Dantes View Post
    Good for them not wanting to have Arum on there?! Wasn't Arum the one asking fans to boycott Mayweather vs Maidana. Why do they have to play nicely with someone who is after their downfall. It's simple logic to see why they've taken this stance.
    Doe, Mayweather is not God. Just for once start rooting for the good of boxing. Mayweather and everything and everyone associated with him are bad for the sport.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Edmond Dantes View Post
      Wait a minute! Wasn't Arum the one asking fans to boycott Mayweather vs Maidana, a Showtime card?!!!! Potentially losing them money. Yet people here are acting like Showtime have forgotten that. Of course they haven't. Why do business and act congenial with someone that wishes you ruin. People here have short term memories.

      He called Showtime's biggest star "Hitler", asked fans to boycott Mayweather vs Maidana then claims on the weekend that Mayweather will duck a supposed rejuvenated Cotto whilst targeting a Dec return for Cotto when he knows May fights in Sept. But then somehow, Showtime and Haymon are in the wrong!

      The amount of absentmindedness on this forum is shocking.
      That wasn't the company line he's been peddling....

      Stephen Espinoza***8207;@StephenEspinoza·Mar 19
      I have no problem doing business with TR "@karmodhami: Will you ever do business with Top Rank/Bob Arum,Hbo? Some great fights to be made"


      Stephen Espinoza***8207;@StephenEspinoza·Jun 2
      TR keeps all their fights on HBO "@aboxingfan: @StephenEspinoza @vegasjay12 Why have you not aired a Top Rank card in the past year?"

      Stephen Espinoza***8207;@StephenEspinoza·Mar 31
      Happily, if we were getting a good fight "@rosieperezbklyn: Really?! "@StephenEspinoza Sure. "wd u do business with Top Rank if they called?

      Stephen Espinoza***8207;@StephenEspinoza·Mar 31
      Sure, if they were offering a good fight. "@vegasjay12: would you do business with Top Rank if they called?"

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      • #33
        Originally posted by JoeMan View Post
        Doe, Mayweather is not God. Just for once start rooting for the good of boxing. Mayweather and everything and everyone associated with him are bad for the sport.
        In order for a brighter boxing future you need to be respectful to other parties within boxing. Arum has gone out of his way to ruin the Mayweather brand and everything in his association since he left Top Rank. Even before the Pac saga. Yet somehow Mayweather is the "only" one in the wrong.

        Arum should have never opened his trap about boycotting Mayweather vs Maidana - A SHOWTIME CARD; and maybe there would be progress but there's not. Arum has been adamant about not working with Haymon fighters, yet you're talking as though they are in the wrong. Every party is partly to blame for the cold war, but to go on as if it's just one group is petty, bias and idiotic.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Edmond Dantes View Post
          Espinoza's the one burning bridges?! Yet Arum is not. Even when saying time and time again he refuses to work with Haymon. Or are people wilfully ignoring what Arum says, and making everyone else out to be in the wrong. There's two sides to every coin you know.
          Arum sucks. **** him. He talks about not working with people and then turns around and works with them when it suits him. Probably why no one cares when he talks about not fighting at the MGM or any stuff like that. When it comes down to it, he'll let all that slide to make money.

          Doesn't change the fact that Showtime is in the wrong right here. They are the one's who are saying they don't have a problem with Arum and then not letting him on their network. If they have a problem with Arum then they need to stop acting like everything is fine.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by JoeMan View Post
            Doe, Mayweather is not God. Just for once start rooting for the good of boxing. Mayweather and everything and everyone associated with him are bad for the sport.
            Apparently, you indirectly feel Mayweather is truly indeed God, because you claim that he and everything and everyone associated with him is bad for the sport. So he's that powerful huh? Professional boxing was never saintly before Mayweather, and it won't be saintly after Mayweather.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Mitchell Kane View Post
              That wasn't the company line he's been peddling....

              Stephen Espinoza***8207;@StephenEspinoza·Mar 19
              I have no problem doing business with TR "@karmodhami: Will you ever do business with Top Rank/Bob Arum,Hbo? Some great fights to be made"


              Stephen Espinoza***8207;@StephenEspinoza·Jun 2
              TR keeps all their fights on HBO "@aboxingfan: @StephenEspinoza @vegasjay12 Why have you not aired a Top Rank card in the past year?"

              Stephen Espinoza***8207;@StephenEspinoza·Mar 31
              Happily, if we were getting a good fight "@rosieperezbklyn: Really?! "@StephenEspinoza Sure. "wd u do business with Top Rank if they called?

              Stephen Espinoza***8207;@StephenEspinoza·Mar 31
              Sure, if they were offering a good fight. "@vegasjay12: would you do business with Top Rank if they called?"
              75% of those tweets are from March, before May 3rd. Before Arum said fans should boycott Mayweather vs Maidana. The other one from June was a straight up honest answer. All their fights are on HBO. It's so obvious a blind guy can see it.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Rocky Rode View Post
                Arum sucks. **** him. He talks about not working with people and then turns around and works with them when it suits him. Probably why no one cares when he talks about not fighting at the MGM or any stuff like that. When it comes down to it, he'll let all that slide to make money.

                Doesn't change the fact that Showtime is in the wrong right here. They are the one's who are saying they don't have a problem with Arum and then not letting him on their network. If they have a problem with Arum then they need to stop acting like everything is fine.
                They clearly do have a problem with Arum and why are they in the wrong for having one? Arum did that all himself by continually burning bridges.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Edmond Dantes View Post
                  Wait a minute! Wasn't Arum the one asking fans to boycott Mayweather vs Maidana, a Showtime card?!!!! Potentially losing them money. Yet people here are acting like Showtime have forgotten that. Of course they haven't. Why do business and act congenial with someone that wishes you ruin. People here have short term memories.

                  He called Showtime's biggest star "Hitler", asked fans to boycott Mayweather vs Maidana then claims on the weekend that Mayweather will duck a supposed rejuvenated Cotto whilst targeting a Dec return for Cotto when he knows May fights in Sept. But then somehow, Showtime and Haymon are in the wrong!

                  The amount of absentmindedness on this forum is shocking.


                  They have very convenient minds here. They all have erased all the stunts Arum has pulled time and time again. He's a Saint now.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by radioraheem View Post


                    They have very convenient minds here. They all have erased all the stunts Arum has pulled time and time again. He's a Saint now.
                    Who said he's a saint? It's going to be hilarious watching each guy trying to screw each other over... first being Arum trying to make Canelo/Cotto on HBO

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Edmond Dantes View Post
                      75% of those tweets are from March, before May 3rd. Before Arum said fans should boycott Mayweather vs Maidana. The other one from June was a straight up honest answer. All their fights are on HBO. It's so obvious a blind guy can see it.
                      This date work for you?

                      Stephen Espinoza***8207;@StephenEspinoza·Jun 2
                      Always have been. "@RedZone_Moss: @StephenEspinoza @vegasjay12 @SHOsports Will you be willing to do business with TR?"

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