Comments Thread For: Andre Ward: If I Beat Sergey Kovalev, Then What?

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  • -PBP-
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    #191
    Originally posted by kiaba360
    Can anyone make an educated guess on how long it'll be before Ward steps back into the ring?
    It's clear Goosen won't make a fight with the lawsuit going on. So probably not this year. Since the legal process is keeping him inactive, the court may grant Goosen another extension past the current November 2016 date.

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    • Humean
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      #192
      Originally posted by -Kev-
      I'm not talking about Geale, Geale hasn't even happened yet. He is 33 and still fighting guys who, to date, are his best wins. I am pretty sure Macklin was #6 but that's one decent win in between Jr MW's and guys who can take beatings.

      If Ward stays busy fighting the lower top 10 SMW's, no one would care, they would still complain about Ward having to move up in weight but give GGG a pass and ask Cotto, Mayweather, Canelo to move up and fight him.

      Let's face it anyway, Geale lost to Barker, he's a decent win. The top 10 at MW is not really full of good fighters, it's more like the best of a bad bunch. Golovkin, Cotto a blown up WW, and Murray are the best fighters at MW. 160 is a weak division.
      32, what is it with people on this forum inflating fighters' ages to make them older than they are? Or are you talking about Geale?

      The difference between Ward and Golovkin is the difficulty Golovkin has in getting fights with anyone credible whereas with Ward he isn't getting the fights because he is overvaluing his own worth as a fighter. The junior middleweights Golovkin fought were all as big as him, Ishida and Rosado actually taller, Rosado is as much a middleweight as a junior middleweight. Ishida has recently fought at heavyweight, should we now call Ishida a heavyweight because he has fought at that weight? Or would that be just plain ******? Ouma was the only one that was more of a proper junior middleweight but he had previously fought Taylor at middleweight. The middleweight division is not one of the best divisions right now but it is certainly not one of the worst,

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      • IMDAZED
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        #193
        Originally posted by Humean
        32, what is it with people on this forum inflating fighters' ages to make them older than they are? Or are you talking about Geale?

        The difference between Ward and Golovkin is the difficulty Golovkin has in getting fights with anyone credible whereas with Ward he isn't getting the fights because he is overvaluing his own worth as a fighter. The junior middleweights Golovkin fought were all as big as him, Ishida and Rosado actually taller, Rosado is as much a middleweight as a junior middleweight. Ishida has recently fought at heavyweight, should we now call Ishida a heavyweight because he has fought at that weight? Or would that be just plain ******? Ouma was the only one that was more of a proper junior middleweight but he had previously fought Taylor at middleweight. The middleweight division is not one of the best divisions right now but it is certainly not one of the worst,
        So in other words, they can't get fights for different reasons. Whoopty-doo.

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        • kiaba360
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          #194
          Originally posted by PBP
          It's clear Goosen won't make a fight with the lawsuit going on. So probably not this year. Since the legal process is keeping him inactive, the court may grant Goosen another extension past the current November 2016 date.
          The rust is really gonna pile up on him. Regardless, he's still gonna be expected him to fight top competition when he returns. That would be the best time to take his 0.

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          • Realizniguhnit
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            #195
            Ward looking for big money fights but outside of GGG or Kovalev they aren't there. Just the cards he's been delt. Nobody fights at 168... it's a shame he can't make 160..

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            • Humean
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              #196
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              So in other words, they can't get fights for different reasons. Whoopty-doo.
              No, in other words, it is not Golovkin's fault but it is Ward's fault.

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              • Light_Speed
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                #197
                Originally posted by -Kev-
                If Ward stays busy fighting the lower top 10 SMW's, no one would care, they would still complain about Ward having to move up in weight but give GGG a pass
                The difference is Ward already fought the big names @ 168, while GGG is still trying to secure a big fight. That's why people feel that moving up to 168 before getting a big fight @ 160 is putting the cart before the horse. But now that Martinez is done and Cotto is looking for ppv worthy names, GGG should probably move up.
                Last edited by Light_Speed; 06-10-2014, 07:08 PM.

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                • Edmond Dantes
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                  #198
                  Ward started his career at 160 then moved up for the big fights at 168, literally right before the Super Six. Why can't Golovkin do the same instead of feasting on overmatched opponents?!

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                  • Drunk Punch
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                    #199
                    So according to Ward the best fights are at 168? And there's nothing at 175??? What about Hopkins, Pascal, Bute, Stevenson, Cloud, Kovalev? Or does he want to spend the best years of his career fighting the likes of Rodriguez or Bika?

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                    • MMegatron
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                      #200
                      yeah, i wonder what you get more money (and respect) for - fighting Kovalev, or sitting on your a$$ complaining about how little money you'll get for fighting Kovalev.

                      I wonder if i'd get more money for sitting home and complaining that i dont get enough from my job.

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