martinez: "it was a punch and not the knee"

[SplitSecond]

NONESENSE!

His corner told Martinez that his legs were finished and that is why they had to stop the fight.

Paul Williams knocked Martinez down in the first round. Martinez picked himself up and later knocked down Williams in the same round ..... Martinez fought a good fight for 12 rounds. Why? He had good movement and his legs were NOT shot. With Cotto, he had no legs and couldn't generate much power on his punches.

he was also 34 vs williams, as oppossed to 39 vs cotto
what you saw was a slow of foot martinez, not a damaged knee
or does martinez not age?

either way he'd always have a tough time with cotto, because cotto is a better boxer

[radioraheem]

he was also 34 vs williams, as oppossed to 39 vs cotto
what you saw was a slow of foot martinez, not a damaged knee
or does martinez not age?

either way he'd always have a tough time with cotto, because cotto is a better boxer

Yes, Cotto would've always been a nightmare for Martinez because he's not only a better boxer, but he's much more technically sound.

[-PBP-]

According to Dibella, Sergio had concussive symptoms

[radioraheem]

According to Dibella, Sergio had concussive symptoms

Whoa. Not good.

[Evol]

let me put it like this. was martinez in 100% shape? prolly not, but his knees didnt give out because he was ******** cotto up. his knees gave out because cotto was ******** him up instead! i see some pac fans on here saying martinez's knees was bad before the fight, etc. and cotto had nothing to do with it. ok, well how should i explain this.

this is similar to when bradley fought pac and bradley injured his ankle. a lot of people was saying bradley injured it on his own and pac had nothing to do with it. well u guys didnt agree with that right? u guys said bradley broke his ankle by trying to move out of the way from manny. well same shiiet happen to sergio. his knees gave out by trying to avoid cotto. although bradley didnt have any problems with his ankle before the fight, the injured occur by both guys trying to avoid punches.

[Syf]

dude, what are you talking about? sergio has always made excuses (or told the truth) when his body took a injury in A match (ALWAYS) after the murray fight he went on and on about how he felt like he broke his hand.............I am gonna do a lot of breaking down in this thread because you guys have taken this way too far.

The nuance you are missing is he wasn't swearing up and down that he was 100 percent leading up to the Murray fight. Leading up to Cotto he was. He's not going to admit he lied in a post fight interview about his physical state to fool the fans into buying the PPV. Also he isn't going to admit he's a damn cripple... It's a pride thing.

But anyone that has a slight level of competence judging form knows Martinez was a shadow of himself in there. Whether from age, injuries, or inactivity.. Or a combination of that trifecta.

Having said that.. Cotto fought a very smart and defensively responsible fight... And looked very sharp.

So there are two stories at play here.

[BillyBoxing]

This is chess not checkers people. Hes not good enough to beat him. Sorry.

Just good enough to stop your heroe's career P.Will wich still seems to be a hard feeling for your lil wounded heart.


***in Sergio is 40 years old and is a figther who always relied on athleticism and looked like shyyte in his last 3 fights so let's not act like he was finally "exposed" last night.

[IMDAZED]

Martinez was obviously a shell of himself but...did Cotto find the fountain of youth or something? Forget Martinez for a second. Cotto on spry, very very sharp, beautiful combinations and power like he still was at 140. Holy ****.

[B-Bomber]

The nuance you are missing is he wasn't swearing up and down that he was 100 percent leading up to the Murray fight. Leading up to Cotto he was. He's not going to admit he lied in a post fight interview about his physical state to fool the fans into buying the PPV. Also he isn't going to admit he's a damn cripple... It's a pride thing.

But anyone that has a slight level of competence judging form knows Martinez was a shadow of himself in there. Whether from age, injuries, or inactivity.. Or a combination of that trifecta.

Having said that.. Cotto fought a very smart and defensively responsible fight... And looked very sharp.

So there are two stories at play here.

Good post.

I agree on both points.

With that said, I doubt Cotto would even beat Trout in a rematch, although he looked very sharp vs Sergio the hype is getting out of hand. Cotto is small at 154, let alone 160.

[Godsfly]

The nuance you are missing is he wasn't swearing up and down that he was 100 percent leading up to the Murray fight. Leading up to Cotto he was. He's not going to admit he lied in a post fight interview about his physical state to fool the fans into buying the PPV. Also he isn't going to admit he's a damn cripple... It's a pride thing.

But anyone that has a slight level of competence judging form knows Martinez was a shadow of himself in there. Whether from age, injuries, or inactivity.. Or a combination of that trifecta.

Having said that.. Cotto fought a very smart and defensively responsible fight... And looked very sharp.

So there are two stories at play here.

news just in...........martinez actually suffered a concussion (which would explain his dizzyness and being off balance) this confirms everything that he told us..........."the truth of the matter is i got caught in the first round and never recovered. i was dizzy the entire fight" he also had a broken nose............the dude was literally hit with a punch in the first round that gave him a concussion & had him dizzy.


i am looking at sergioes medical reports and his own words. (his own words actually matches with his medical reports) in fact sergio claims his legs were no problem at all. he simply was concussed for the entire fight. (which would explain the dizzyness) open and shut case............enough with ignoring sergio & disparately putting words in his mouth. sergios medical reports now backs up what he's been saying the entire time.


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