Miguel "El Handicap Killer" Cotto STRIKES AGAIN!, Did what he was supposed to do

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  • SplitSecond
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    #181
    there was little wrong with martinez' legs, he lost maybe a tad bit of speed since the chavez fight, but he was roided back then, so he was also much more physically fit and alot stronger, even with his slappy hooks, ko'ing people

    the difference was cotto, martinez didn't have his usual opponent who just walks to him and someone he can just walk away from in turn, he couldn't handle cotto's dashing in

    his weakened chin/less power was also likely due to being off roids

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    • radioraheem
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      #182
      Originally posted by Hyper Knuckles
      It's okay ..no lloren.. Sergio will return back home a richer man while the rest of us remain broke and with a little bit of luck, hopeful that tomorrow will be a better day.

      Progress chart for Maravilla fans(no thanks needed):


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      • Suavecito80
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        #183
        Originally posted by TheHolyCross
        there was little wrong with martinez' legs, he lost maybe a tad bit of speed since the chavez fight, but he was roided back then, so he was also much more physically fit and alot stronger, even with his slappy hooks, ko'ing people

        the difference was cotto, martinez didn't have his usual opponent who just walks to him and someone he can just walk away from in turn, he couldn't handle cotto's dashing in

        his weakened chin/less power was also likely due to being off roids
        Everybody is on roids except your hero, right? GTFO

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        • SplitSecond
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          #184
          Originally posted by Suavecito80
          Everybody is on roids except your hero, right? GTFO
          only people i think are on roids are marquez, martinez, guillermo jones and carl thompson

          when it's painfully obvious, i say it like it is
          martinez has been off them for the past 2 fights though

          i called it in the lead up to the murray fight, you could tell with his body, i dont know if he as afraid of being caught now that he had made it and was performing for his people or w/e, but he looked considerably smaller than usual, muscles not as swollen, and then he showed it on fight night

          and leading up to the cotto fight i've been saying "wow, looks like he's actually gonna fight cotto without steroids", and he did, an old man, finally showing his age, no insane stamina with lots of movement + lots of punches + all while hitting like a mule and being ridiculously strong

          and i called it when he looked like he got on them going into the second williams fight

          when pacquiao is 37-40 and doing what marquez(still having wars, still bouncing for a full 12, outworking younger guys, showing newfound strength and power) or martinez(same thing as marquez)

          then i will without a doubt call it like i see it, at the moment there is nothing substantial to go around harping about pacquiao being on steroids, but lets not take this thread into that direction
          Last edited by SplitSecond; 06-09-2014, 08:04 AM.

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          • Divine Hammer
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            #185
            if he did what he was supposed to do then why were a lot of people picking against him?

            a lot of people seem to have trouble accepting that cotto is ATG.

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            • DARKSEID
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              #186
              Originally posted by Divine Hammer
              if he did what he was supposed to do then why were a lot of people picking against him?

              a lot of people seem to have trouble accepting that cotto is ATG.
              Cotto is not an ATG

              His defense is horrible, he fades, can't deal with pressure, can't fight going backwards and has lost every time he stepped up in opposition. All of his best wins are questionable.

              Shane Mosley is his best win, but what has shane done outside of lightweight except beat Margarito, which was also a questionable winc considering the controversy and what Margarito was going through after being caught with plaster in his hand wraps.
              Last edited by DARKSEID; 06-09-2014, 08:17 AM.

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              • STREET CLEANER
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                #187
                Funny that the same people that said that Margo was going to make Cotto quit on the second fight are now saying that he had one eye.

                Bunch of hypocrites

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                • STREET CLEANER
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                  #188
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  Yeah.....legitimate, proven injuries are just "excuses".

                  Plaster doe!
                  When the man doesn't offer excuses you guys do it for him

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                  • FerFAL
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by PorterIsFuture
                    I'm not even a Martinez fan but he has a point.
                    Beating a One-Legged Foreman, a one-eyed Margarito, and a One-legged shot Martinez.
                    Come on..
                    Not saying he sucks, but he has had luck on his side.
                    Its not really luck as much as it is knowing when he has a chance of beating someone and when he doesnt. At the end of the day its business. No one forced Martinez to fight injured to a point where anyone A or even B level fighter would have beaten him. Murray came pretty close in his last fight, so that shows what shape he's in, and Cotto fought an even older version of Martinez.
                    Now for the giving props to Cotto part: he didnt "steal" the fight like we so often see these days and he didnt force any pillow gloves at the last minute.
                    Smart? Sure.
                    If Cotto the god of boxing that some here believe?

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by - Righteous -
                      Cotto is not an ATG

                      His defense is horrible, he fades, can't deal with pressure, can't fight going backwards and has lost every time he stepped up in opposition. All of his best wins are questionable.

                      Shane Mosley is his best win, but what has shane done outside of lightweight except beat Margarito, which was also a questionable winc considering the controversy and what Margarito was going through after being caught with plaster in his hand wraps.
                      your opinion is horrible.

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