Are you people crazy?

[bojangles1987]

You're completely wrong there

If Martinez and Cotto were the same size, Martinez is still leagues above Cotto as a fighter.

Come on, that's not true. Cotto's proven his skills and worth as a fighter, and he's at least as good a fighter as Martinez. At least.

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Come on, that's not true. Cotto's proven his skills and worth as a fighter, and he's at least as good a fighter as Martinez. At least.

Martinez has proven much more, and has never quit.

Cotto fades as the fight goes, but Martinez just fights even harder, even if his body doesn't agree with his heart.

[bojangles1987]

Martinez has proven much more, and has never quit.

Cotto fades as the fight goes, but Martinez just fights even harder, even if his body doesn't agree with his heart.

Sergio's never fought fighters like Shane Mosley or Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao. Cotto's fought through hell plenty of times. The one time he quit was after giving absolutely everything he had in a fight where he had taken a terrible beating, and the guy may even have cheated.

Cotto very, very obviously has had a better career than Sergio Martinez, and beaten the better fighters.

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Sergio's never fought fighters like Shane Mosley or Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao. Cotto's fought through hell plenty of times. The one time he quit was after giving absolutely everything he had in a fight where he had taken a terrible beating, and the guy may even have cheated.

Cotto very, very obviously has had a better career than Sergio Martinez, and beaten the better fighters.

Cotto got his ass handed to him by Mayweather and Pacquiao

Martinez beat a prime, unstoppable Paul Williams twice. Something Cotto could have never done.

He also dominated a roided out cruiserweight in Chavez, something Cotto could NEVER do.

Martinez beat martin murray with a ****ed up knee, injured shoulder and broken hand. There is no quit in him, he is a warrior blood in blood out.

[bojangles1987]

Cotto got his ass handed to him by Mayweather and Pacquiao

Martinez beat a prime, unstoppable Paul Williams twice. Something Cotto could have never done.

He also dominated a roided out cruiserweight in Chavez, something Cotto could NEVER do.

Chavez is an average fighter with size. Big deal. Pacquiao couldn't do to Chavez what Martinez did either, does that make Martinez better than Pacquiao?

Prime, unstoppable Paul Williams lost to Carlos Quintana what, a year or year and a half before the first Sergio fight? How is he unstoppable again? He also looked awful against Cintron before the Sergio rematch.

And Cotto 100% did not get his ass handed to him by Mayweather. He lost, but he was competitive throughout and gave Mayweather his toughest fight in years.

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Chavez is an average fighter with size. Big deal. Pacquiao couldn't do to Chavez what Martinez did either, does that make Martinez better than Pacquiao?

Prime, unstoppable Paul Williams lost to Carlos Quintana what, a year or year and a half before the first Sergio fight? How is he unstoppable again? He also looked awful against Cintron before the Sergio rematch.

And Cotto 100% did not get his ass handed to him by Mayweather. He lost, but he was competitive throughout and gave Mayweather his toughest fight in years.

Ok we're just going to have to agree to disagree at this point because you're not seeing what I'm seeing.

Hope you didn't put money on Cotto lol

edit: And Cotto got his ass handed to him by Mayweather. At BEST he didn't win more than 3 rounds, I don't know what fight you were watching.

[bojangles1987]

Ok we're just going to have to agree to disagree at this point because you're not seeing what I'm seeing.

Hope you didn't put money on Cotto lol

edit: And Cotto got his ass handed to him by Mayweather. At BEST he didn't win more than 3 rounds, I don't know what fight you were watching.

The scorecard margin was wide for Mayweather, but the fight was not. Most those rounds were competitive and Mayweather got pushed hard.

I don't think Cotto can win unless Martinez is done. That has so much more to do with size than anything else IMO. When fighters of equal ability fight, but one is a middleweight and the other is blown up welterweight, it's hard to imagine the blown up welterweight not getting destroyed. Cotto shouldn't be able to handle what a relatively healthy Sergio brings to the table.

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The scorecard margin was wide for Mayweather, but the fight was not. Most those rounds were competitive and Mayweather got pushed hard.

I don't think Cotto can win unless Martinez is done. That has so much more to do with size than anything else IMO. When fighters of equal ability fight, but one is a middleweight and the other is blown up welterweight, it's hard to imagine the blown up welterweight not getting destroyed. Cotto shouldn't be able to handle what a relatively healthy Sergio brings to the table.

They were most certainly not competitive lol

Cotto wasn't landing ****, and Mayweather was destroying him with right hands.

The Cotto fight was a textbook Mayweather fight where the other fighter couldn't break through his defense. Nobody has except Maidana and Castillo.

[billeau2]

Cotto got his ass handed to him by Mayweather and Pacquiao

Martinez beat a prime, unstoppable Paul Williams twice. Something Cotto could have never done.

He also dominated a roided out cruiserweight in Chavez, something Cotto could NEVER do.

Martinez beat martin murray with a ****ed up knee, injured shoulder and broken hand. There is no quit in him, he is a warrior blood in blood out.

Thats ridiculous. Unbeatable Paul Williams? Chavez Junior? your idea of a stunning victory is "suspect" to say the least

[DARKSEID]

Here, I'm gonna watch the fight again too since I'm just waiting for the fight tonight.

Tell me which rounds were competitive.