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I only logged in for a wank FFS.
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Pics or it didn't happen.
I only logged in for a wank FFS.
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Look at everyone of sergios weigh in photos. He has wide obliques. You're an idiot if you think he was out of shape in this fight.Originally posted by ChampBox@PR View Post
Look atthe williams an dpavlik fights, or any fight at 154. No different.
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At what point during the weigh in did this happen lol?Originally posted by `STEELHEAD View PostComment
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Even though he lost Margarito literally beat the prime out of Pacquiao.Originally posted by drenlou View PostComment
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hahahaha a ONE POUND CATCHWEIGHT... you serious right?Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic View Post
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Combining the past 6 fights of the opponents that each fighter martinez and cotto have faced when they fought, you get this... Martinez's opponents past 6 fight record: 180-116-19 That means that they have lost a total of 64% of their total fights. for cotto: 164-72-5 They lost a total of 43% of thier fights. The only undefeated fighters that martinez has faced are(showing their record at fight time): Gabriel Leonidas Leiva 3-0, Ignacio Ramon Caceres 5-0-2, Frank Oppong 6-0-1. Then you have barker, dzrinski, murray, chavez jr. Undefeated fighters that cotto has faced: Carlos Maussa 17-0-0, Kelson Pinto 21-0-0, Ricardo Torres 28-0-0, Paul Malignaggi 21-0-0,
Carlos Quintana 23-0-0.
Sergio Martinez, Rounds boxed-391 ko% 50.91... Total opponents fought that has 50% ratio loss or more- 11... Records were: Villalva 4-4, Nieva 3-6, Alvaro Gamboa 8-12-1, surcica 9-14-1, Gamboa again this time hes 12-23-2, Tskrialashvili 7-9, brito 11-14-3, Surcica again this time hes 13-24-2, Tchinda 1-7-2, Madalin 3-35-2.
Miguel Cotto, rounds boxed-295 ko% 73.81.. Total opponents fought that has 50% ratio loss or more- 4... records were: Gonidez 4-10, Young 2-2, Ramirez 4-11, Lunsford 11-14-1 (*Note that all these fights were withing cottos first 5 fights, while martinez had 42W-1L when he fought 3-35-2 Madalin.)Comment
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For all those who THINKS that martinez is the better fighter. He has been dropped in his past four fights. Got a gift decision in his last fight vs murray. He beat an old pavlik who has only jermaine taylor has his notable win. An old taylor as a matter of fact who arthur abraham did better than pavlik. Chavez jr. didn't throw any punches until the last round, because he is the type of fighter who needs to set his feet to throw those big shots, so since he was down on the scorecard he just started swinging punches and dropped martinez. Matthew macklin is a nobody, darren barker is a nobody, Serhiy Dzinziruk is a nobody, Paul Williams was a good fighter but he did lose to carlos quintana, and they would have fought a 3rd time but williams got into that accident. Erislandy Lara got robbed in that Pwilliams fight. He couldn't even beat kermit cintron convincingly, and as a puertorican I can tell you cintron is ass. Other than those fighters, he has fought plenty of bums in spain and argentina to pad up that record. Oh, and when he fought for the 1st time in nevada, he got ko'd by margacheatoh and then went back to spain to fight more bums. Now, styles makes fights. I see some people here saying that cotto gets hit alot. yes he did, thats because whenever he used to throw punches he would switch up his stance and that was when he was vounorable(spellcheck). Cotto understands that now that roach pointed that out to him, (the main reason pacquiao was even able to tag him so many times). Stylistically wise, He is back to the old cotto, dig that hook to the liver, something that he has gotten away from in recent years due to his different trainers. Mayweather knows this, (dont get mad mayweather fanboys, im just using him as an example). When cotto was 31-0 and just beat mosley, he was a body hooking machine. Then, a month later after the ricky hatton fight, mayweather retired saying that he has nothing left to prove, meanwhile cotto and him was in the same weight division. He only unretired after cotto lost to margarito, changed trainers, changed his STYLE of fighting, giving up the left hook to the body for a jab and being more defensive.
WAR COTTO!!!!
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funny thing is on the 24/7 of cotto/martinez roach mention something about martinez during the chavez fight that i see the same thing happen with pac. roach said even though martinez won that fight it was a very tough and ugly fight for him because he gave it his all and tried to KO chavez but couldnt. roach said martinez left a part of himself inside that ring that night and he will never be the same. i feel the same goes for manny after the marg fight. after the marg fight pac just never looked the same.Originally posted by Rust Cohle View PostComment
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well cotto is still going to loseOriginally posted by bigjavi973 View PostFor all those who THINKS that martinez is the better fighter. He has been dropped in his past four fights. Got a gift decision in his last fight vs murray. He beat an old pavlik who has only jermaine taylor has his notable win. An old taylor as a matter of fact who arthur abraham did better than pavlik. Chavez jr. didn't throw any punches until the last round, because he is the type of fighter who needs to set his feet to throw those big shots, so since he was down on the scorecard he just started swinging punches and dropped martinez. Matthew macklin is a nobody, darren barker is a nobody, Serhiy Dzinziruk is a nobody, Paul Williams was a good fighter but he did lose to carlos quintana, and they would have fought a 3rd time but williams got into that accident. Erislandy Lara got robbed in that Pwilliams fight. He couldn't even beat kermit cintron convincingly, and as a puertorican I can tell you cintron is ass. Other than those fighters, he has fought plenty of bums in spain and argentina to pad up that record. Oh, and when he fought for the 1st time in nevada, he got ko'd by margacheatoh and then went back to spain to fight more bums. Now, styles makes fights. I see some people here saying that cotto gets hit alot. yes he did, thats because whenever he used to throw punches he would switch up his stance and that was when he was vounorable(spellcheck). Cotto understands that now that roach pointed that out to him, (the main reason pacquiao was even able to tag him so many times). Stylistically wise, He is back to the old cotto, dig that hook to the liver, something that he has gotten away from in recent years due to his different trainers. Mayweather knows this, (dont get mad mayweather fanboys, im just using him as an example). When cotto was 31-0 and just beat mosley, he was a body hooking machine. Then, a month later after the ricky hatton fight, mayweather retired saying that he has nothing left to prove, meanwhile cotto and him was in the same weight division. He only unretired after cotto lost to margarito, changed trainers, changed his STYLE of fighting, giving up the left hook to the body for a jab and being more defensive.
WAR COTTO!!!!
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Marquez gets dropped a lot, too. You gonna tell me he's not greater?Originally posted by bigjavi973 View PostFor all those who THINKS that martinez is the better fighter. He has been dropped in his past four fights. Got a gift decision in his last fight vs murray. He beat an old pavlik who has only jermaine taylor has his notable win. An old taylor as a matter of fact who arthur abraham did better than pavlik. Chavez jr. didn't throw any punches until the last round, because he is the type of fighter who needs to set his feet to throw those big shots, so since he was down on the scorecard he just started swinging punches and dropped martinez. Matthew macklin is a nobody, darren barker is a nobody, Serhiy Dzinziruk is a nobody, Paul Williams was a good fighter but he did lose to carlos quintana, and they would have fought a 3rd time but williams got into that accident. Erislandy Lara got robbed in that Pwilliams fight. He couldn't even beat kermit cintron convincingly, and as a puertorican I can tell you cintron is ass. Other than those fighters, he has fought plenty of bums in spain and argentina to pad up that record. Oh, and when he fought for the 1st time in nevada, he got ko'd by margacheatoh and then went back to spain to fight more bums. Now, styles makes fights. I see some people here saying that cotto gets hit alot. yes he did, thats because whenever he used to throw punches he would switch up his stance and that was when he was vounorable(spellcheck). Cotto understands that now that roach pointed that out to him, (the main reason pacquiao was even able to tag him so many times). Stylistically wise, He is back to the old cotto, dig that hook to the liver, something that he has gotten away from in recent years due to his different trainers. Mayweather knows this, (dont get mad mayweather fanboys, im just using him as an example). When cotto was 31-0 and just beat mosley, he was a body hooking machine. Then, a month later after the ricky hatton fight, mayweather retired saying that he has nothing left to prove, meanwhile cotto and him was in the same weight division. He only unretired after cotto lost to margarito, changed trainers, changed his STYLE of fighting, giving up the left hook to the body for a jab and being more defensive.
WAR COTTO!!!!
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