Comments Thread For: Roach: Martinez's Chin Not Good, One Shot and It's Over

[bigjavi973]

For all those who THINKS that martinez is the better fighter. He has been dropped in his past four fights. Got a gift decision in his last fight vs murray. He beat an old pavlik who has only jermaine taylor has his notable win. An old taylor as a matter of fact who arthur abraham did better than pavlik. Chavez jr. didn't throw any punches until the last round, because he is the type of fighter who needs to set his feet to throw those big shots, so since he was down on the scorecard he just started swinging punches and dropped martinez. Matthew macklin is a nobody, darren barker is a nobody, Serhiy Dzinziruk is a nobody, Paul Williams was a good fighter but he did lose to carlos quintana, and they would have fought a 3rd time but williams got into that accident. Erislandy Lara got robbed in that Pwilliams fight. He couldn't even beat kermit cintron convincingly, and as a puertorican I can tell you cintron is ass. Other than those fighters, he has fought plenty of bums in spain and argentina to pad up that record. Oh, and when he fought for the 1st time in nevada, he got ko'd by margacheatoh and then went back to spain to fight more bums. Now, styles makes fights. I see some people here saying that cotto gets hit alot. yes he did, thats because whenever he used to throw punches he would switch up his stance and that was when he was vounorable(spellcheck). Cotto understands that now that roach pointed that out to him, (the main reason pacquiao was even able to tag him so many times). Stylistically wise, He is back to the old cotto, dig that hook to the liver, something that he has gotten away from in recent years due to his different trainers. Mayweather knows this, (dont get mad mayweather fanboys, im just using him as an example). When cotto was 31-0 and just beat mosley, he was a body hooking machine. Then, a month later after the ricky hatton fight, mayweather retired saying that he has nothing left to prove, meanwhile cotto and him was in the same weight division. He only unretired after cotto lost to margarito, changed trainers, changed his STYLE of fighting, giving up the left hook to the body for a jab and being more defensive.

WAR COTTO!!!!

[GRUSTLER]

Not going to argue that his chin seems questionable after the past couple of fights. Murray got an official KD and one that looked like it could'e been one

Chin questionable? Martinez has been fighting natural bigger fighters who are stronger than Cotto. Anyone who believes Cotto hits harder than Chavez Jr is a Jack Ass. Facts are Cotto is too small to be effective at the higher weights against good opponents. Martinez is going to dissect and break Cotto apart.

[brickcityboxing]

Manny fought Cotto at a catch weight of 145. I give Pacquiao full credit for the win, but I don't doubt that Miguel's weight made him more vulnerable to Manny's power. With his speed, crazy angles and repeated shots, Pacquiao broke Cotto down. At a higher weight, Miguel probably would've handled the shots better. I don't believe for a moment that 145 lb Pac hits harder than 160 lb Martinez.

Understatement of the decade ...

[brickcityboxing]

Roach is right. One shot and it's over. Too bad it's going to be his guy taking that one shot...

[Joe Grizzley]

Thing is though is Cotto isn't a middleweight and not even a jr middleweight. He's a blown up welterweight and no fuc.king way in hell he stops Martinez.

Roach is wack.

[White_Knight]

I believe fighters who are on the slender side (slender by boxing standards) are more prone to flash knock downs. There are exceptions, for sure, but as a general rule it holds. A better indicator of how good or bad a chin is is how often a fighter has been on wobbly legs - in others words, how often he has been hurt rather than knocked down.

[ugly2000]

For all those who THINKS that martinez is the better fighter. He has been dropped in his past four fights. Got a gift decision in his last fight vs murray. He beat an old pavlik who has only jermaine taylor has his notable win. An old taylor as a matter of fact who arthur abraham did better than pavlik. Chavez jr. didn't throw any punches until the last round, because he is the type of fighter who needs to set his feet to throw those big shots, so since he was down on the scorecard he just started swinging punches and dropped martinez. Matthew macklin is a nobody, darren barker is a nobody, Serhiy Dzinziruk is a nobody, Paul Williams was a good fighter but he did lose to carlos quintana, and they would have fought a 3rd time but williams got into that accident. Erislandy Lara got robbed in that Pwilliams fight. He couldn't even beat kermit cintron convincingly, and as a puertorican I can tell you cintron is ass. Other than those fighters, he has fought plenty of bums in spain and argentina to pad up that record. Oh, and when he fought for the 1st time in nevada, he got ko'd by margacheatoh and then went back to spain to fight more bums. Now, styles makes fights. I see some people here saying that cotto gets hit alot. yes he did, thats because whenever he used to throw punches he would switch up his stance and that was when he was vounorable(spellcheck). Cotto understands that now that roach pointed that out to him, (the main reason pacquiao was even able to tag him so many times). Stylistically wise, He is back to the old cotto, dig that hook to the liver, something that he has gotten away from in recent years due to his different trainers. Mayweather knows this, (dont get mad mayweather fanboys, im just using him as an example). When cotto was 31-0 and just beat mosley, he was a body hooking machine. Then, a month later after the ricky hatton fight, mayweather retired saying that he has nothing left to prove, meanwhile cotto and him was in the same weight division. He only unretired after cotto lost to margarito, changed trainers, changed his STYLE of fighting, giving up the left hook to the body for a jab and being more defensive.

WAR COTTO!!!!

WOW! I need to get some of what your on. So May retired because of Cotto. lol

[Dr Rumack]

Freddie just saying the first thing that comes into his head at this stage.

[ThePunchingBag]

Cotto punches plenty hard, but I sincerely doubt he punches as hard as Chavez, who's much bigger. I'm curious to see how Miguel's power comes across versus Martinez. He'll need to land often. I don't think he's got enough to hurt Sergio with one big punch.

Cotto punches hurt more. Chavez has sloppy technique.

Roach says that Cotto is the hardest puncher he's worked with p4p.

[GorgeousJorge]

Roach should stop all the confidence building in his fighters. Roach just needs to tell it like it is and be honest and just say that Martinez is going beat the living crp out of Cotto.

Of course, we all know Cotto would is only a shell of himself. That terrible beat down he took from TBE most certainly took something away from Cotto and he's no longer the same anymore due to his loss to TBE