Do you think Froch would give Calzaghe a pasting?

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  • slimshandy69
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    #21
    Originally posted by CASA DE COMBATE
    Froch is coming off a career high win, but lets not act like he cant be outboxed. Ward dominated him and Dirrell arguably beat him I think Calslappy can move very well for all 12 rounds even though he would not have the power to hurt him. If both fighters were active of course, this is a fantasy fight at any rate.
    rubbish

    Dirrell lost by 4 rounds on my score card to dirrell and all the experts agree with me.

    Andre ward against ill froch , who did zero inside sparring only lost by 2 rounds to andre ward.

    In england he would beat Ward.

    Calzaghe beats froch, no doubt about it, but dont talk baloney...

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    • CASA DE COMBATE
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      #22
      Originally posted by -Kev-
      Calzaghe has very good footwork, and he is not as weak as Malignaggi. His opponents say he is not a slapper as fans like to call him. You can not compare a guy with 6 KO's to a guy with 30+ KO's.

      I was comparing the styles, Paulie didnt have the power to back up or make Porter think twice about coming straight at him. Froch has shown he can take a few hits and when he realizes Joe cant hurt him ,it will be easier to pressure him.

      I am pretty sure Calzaghe would end up having an easier time with common opponents than Froch had, we already saw that with Kessler. I am sure that despite what people think of the outcome of Calzaghe-Hopkins, Froch-Hopkins would be worse, Froch wouldn't stand a chance against Hopkins of 2008. I also see this older version of Bika giving Froch more problems than a prime Bika gave Calzaghe. Triangle theories do not apply in boxing, but Calzaghe is the superior boxer and would do better against just about anyone in Froch's resume.

      agreed

      Unfortunately Calzaghe missed his opportunities to prove himself against Dawson, Johnson, Pavlik(willing to move up for Calzaghe), Tarver...the top guys at 175 from 2007-2009. But the few guys he did fight, Bika, Kessler, Hopkins, he did show he is not as easy guy to look good against or beat.
      Theres really more what if's in Joe's resume asyou have pointed out but these guys will not pressure Joe like Froch would. I still have Joe winning but Froch can trouble him with more credit than hes being given.

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      • CASA DE COMBATE
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        #23
        Originally posted by slimshandy69
        rubbish

        Dirrell lost by 4 rounds on my score card to dirrell and all the experts agree with me.

        Andre ward against ill froch , who did zero inside sparring only lost by 2 rounds to andre ward.

        In england he would beat Ward.

        Calzaghe beats froch, no doubt about it, but dont talk baloney...
        Ward style is all wrong for Froch , hes an exciting fighter worthy of praise as his fights are entertaining because he seems to pull from behind to beat boxer style fighters.

        Will he beat him in England because of the bias theyre going to pull for the local fighter ? Is that what you mean ?

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          #24
          Originally posted by CASA DE COMBATE
          Theres really more what if's in Joe's resume asyou have pointed out but these guys will not pressure Joe like Froch would. I still have Joe winning but Froch can trouble him with more credit than hes being given.
          Froch is given massive amounts of credit year after year. Calzaghe on the other hand, is given almost no credit. His skills are being underrated and Froch is being overrated.

          He lost 11 rounds to Taylor, lost to Dirrell, fought a much closer fight than anticipated against an old Johnson, lost to Kessler.

          Calzaghe beat Kessler, beat Hopkins, beat Bika, beat an old Eubank, lost to nobody.

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            #25
            Originally posted by slimshandy69
            rubbish

            Dirrell lost by 4 rounds on my score card to dirrell and all the experts agree with me.

            Andre ward against ill froch , who did zero inside sparring only lost by 2 rounds to andre ward.

            In england he would beat Ward.

            Calzaghe beats froch, no doubt about it, but dont talk baloney...
            Your scorecard sounds very poor to me if you had Froch by four rounds against Dirrell and I don't know who 'all' these 'experts' are supposed to be that agree with you.

            Two of the scorecards against Ward were also very kind to Froch. The 118-110 scorecard was the best scorecard out of the three. If you take the majority score of each round between the three scorecards you get 117-111 Ward which is perhaps the best scorecard for that fight.

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              #26
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              Froch is given massive amounts of credit year after year. Calzaghe on the other hand, is given almost no credit. His skills are being underrated and Froch is being overrated.

              He lost 11 rounds to Taylor, lost to Dirrell, fought a much closer fight than anticipated against an old Johnson, lost to Kessler.

              Calzaghe beat Kessler, beat Hopkins, beat Bika, beat an old Eubank, lost to nobody.
              This was his coming out party in the states come from behind and ko Taylor , he did lose to Dirrell imo. From memory i think
              the Kessler fight was close.
              I think people always remember the ko's instead of technical fights which is why Froch is very popular nowadays.

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                #27
                Calzaghe would bury him in activity.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  Froch is given massive amounts of credit year after year. Calzaghe on the other hand, is given almost no credit. His skills are being underrated and Froch is being overrated.

                  He lost 11 rounds to Taylor, lost to Dirrell, fought a much closer fight than anticipated against an old Johnson, lost to Kessler.

                  Calzaghe beat Kessler, beat Hopkins, beat Bika, beat an old Eubank, lost to nobody.
                  He most certainly did not.

                  Froch took over that fight from round 7, and he totally battered Taylor for the last 3. I believe the Showtime guys called it right and had Froch even in the 12th.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    Froch is given massive amounts of credit year after year. Calzaghe on the other hand, is given almost no credit. His skills are being underrated and Froch is being overrated.

                    He lost 11 rounds to Taylor, lost to Dirrell, fought a much closer fight than anticipated against an old Johnson, lost to Kessler.

                    Calzaghe beat Kessler, beat Hopkins, beat Bika, beat an old Eubank, lost to nobody.
                    1) the showtime pundits had it a draw going into the 12th round against taylor

                    it was a split decision going into the 12th round by the judges, so to say he lost 11 rounds is a woeful lie

                    2) Boxrec had froch beating dirrell, i had froch beating dirrell, manny stewart had froch beating dirrell, Allan greem had froch beating dirrell, Graham houston had froch beting dirrell, Dan rafael and jimmy iowa had froch beating dirrell, ESB had froch beating dirrell, the PRESS ROW even had froch beating dirrell

                    **** even this yank had froch beating dirrell



                    Another woeful lie

                    3) Froch beat Glen Johnson by at least 6 rounds, nothing close about it at all

                    Lie number 3

                    4) Froch in alot of people eyes beat kessler in his jome town, and schooled him by 117-111 in the rematch

                    Another horrible lie


                    Is this the best NSB can do????

                    Pathetic

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                    • takingaim
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                      #30
                      calzaghe would take him to school. that is the only outcome.

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