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Top 15 Welterweights of the 21st Century
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Originally posted by MurkaMan View PostThis one is easy. Floyd is the best fighter. ANY of us have seen. A complete fighter. Versitile, and makes it look effortless. His fights look choreographed.
Maybe those rumours of Al Haymon paying Alvarez to "take it easy" on Fraud carry some weight.
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Originally posted by MBE View PostThat's an extreme hater comment even from a Filipino. What about 'frauds' welterweight icing of hatton, shutout of JMM and breezing past p4p #3 Mosley?
hatton a 140 lbs was asked to fight at 147, fraud cheated jmm on the scales, and mosley put fraud on ***** street a couple of times.
oh well... thanks for reminding me so instead of ranking fraud from # 11 or 12, now i'd put him # 15 or 16.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Postyou switch floyd and manny the list is fine. Floyd is the lineal champ, beat better fighters at 147, and has a win over the #3 guy on your list when he was recognized as the best ww in the world.
Floyd ain't the lineal champ at welter
He beat Mosley when Pacquiao was ranked the best welterweight in the world.
Try not to forget the facts.
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Originally posted by D4thincarnation View PostFloyd ain't the lineal champ at welter
He beat Mosley when Pacquiao was ranked the best welterweight in the world.
Try not to forget the facts.
Manny was in fact ranked #1 by ring only. Everyone else had mosley #1 and floyd #2.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostCliff rold on this site, and many others have floyd as the lineal champ. Others do not.
Manny was in fact ranked #1 by ring only. Everyone else had mosley #1 and floyd #2.
Why are you making up stuff for?
You are only lying to yourself.
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Originally posted by D4thincarnation View PostEveryone else had Mosley number 1?
Why are you making up stuff for?
You are only lying to yourself.
By Cliff Rold
1) Floyd Mayweather (46-0, 26 KO)***8232;
Age: 37***8232;
Current Title: Lineal World Welterweight (2010-Present, 3 Defenses); WBC Welterweight (2011-Present, 2 Defenses); WBA ***8220;Super***8221; Light Middleweight (2012-Present, 1 Defense); Ring Welterweight (2013-Present, 1 Defense); Lineal/TBRB/Ring/WBC Jr. Middleweight (2013-Present, 0 Defenses); WBA ***8220;Super***8221; Welterweight (2014-Present, 0 Defenses)***8232;
Additional Lineal World Championships: World Jr. Lightweight (1998-2002, 8 Defenses); World Lightweight (2002-2004, 3 Defenses); World Welterweight (2006-08, 1 Defense)***8232;
I'll go with cliff over you since he is a boxing fan and you are someone who said "Jabs don't count".
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostBoxingScene Pound for Pound Top Ten
By Cliff Rold
1) Floyd Mayweather (46-0, 26 KO)***8232;
Age: 37***8232;
Current Title: Lineal World Welterweight (2010-Present, 3 Defenses); WBC Welterweight (2011-Present, 2 Defenses); WBA ***8220;Super***8221; Light Middleweight (2012-Present, 1 Defense); Ring Welterweight (2013-Present, 1 Defense); Lineal/TBRB/Ring/WBC Jr. Middleweight (2013-Present, 0 Defenses); WBA ***8220;Super***8221; Welterweight (2014-Present, 0 Defenses)***8232;
Additional Lineal World Championships: World Jr. Lightweight (1998-2002, 8 Defenses); World Lightweight (2002-2004, 3 Defenses); World Welterweight (2006-08, 1 Defense)***8232;
I'll go with cliff over you since he is a boxing fan and you are someone who said "Jabs don't count".
So Cliff is everyone now
How much do you smoke?
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Hell nah LOL.
It CAN propel your legacy when your skillset outshine every other fighter in history. Floyd has a stand-out skillset. His whole legacy is built around him being the Best figher Ever. If he had SRL skillset, but he is fighting better foes I wouldnt say he was the best. I would constantly compare him to SRL.
You say he doesnt have an ATG resume, Pac doesnt have no damn ATG resume LOL. Only thing he has is 8 weight classes. With or without a great resume, he STILL has those weight classes. No matter how many bums Pac fought, he still climbed those weight classes and you cant take that away from him.
Now lets talk Floyd. Name a fighter in history that can fight his opponents, and NOT destroy them or murder them, but change their whole fighting style and dominate each of his foes without being hissed, for 18 freaking years. Floyd's skillset and ring dominance IS his legacy.
People just dont want it to be, because if he really got credit we would recognize him as the best fighter in hstory. Thats the reason you all find ways to talk around the elephant in the room that is his in-ring abilities.
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