Should there be with a Super Heavyweight division in the pro game?

[SlySlickSmooth]

Well then as i said, maybe in the lower weight divisions more fighters should be trying to fight bigger fighters to show skill can win fights over size. I'd like to see a lot more of it.

Rather than drain fighters, fighters should move up or let them fight at their proper weight. Even if it's 2 different weight classes, because that's what we're doing at heavyweight.

but Manny Pacquiao only knows 1-2 punch doe. he just brawler doe. straight left hand all he know doe. he a flyweight doe. steroids doe

[SlySlickSmooth]

How did you go from

"Should we have a Super Heavyweight division"
to
"Lower weight fighters should move up then" (Fighters have been doing this for over a century)

[SlySlickSmooth]

Well then as i said, maybe in the lower weight divisions more fighters should be trying to fight bigger fighters to show skill can win fights over size. I'd like to see a lot more of it.

Rather than drain fighters, fighters should move up or let them fight at their proper weight. Even if it's 2 different weight classes, because that's what we're doing at heavyweight.

But Sugar Ray Leondard drained Donny Lalonde for a 175 belt and they fought at 168. He a drainer doe. He aint an ATG doe

[CrookedRain]

I always respect Pacquiao for what he did. I want to see more fighters doing the same.

But we both know if Martinez flattens Cotto, everyone one here is going to say it's a size advantage that did it and saying Martinez is a b1tch for fighting someone so small. But if Tyson Fury flattens Chisora which is a much bigger size difference, it wont be as much of an issue.

I'm sure we can go through all of boxing history and pick out exceptions to every point anybody has ever put forward. Doe.

[SlySlickSmooth]

I always respect Pacquiao for what he did. I want to see more fighters doing the same.

But we both know if Martinez flattens Cotto, everyone one here is going to say it's a size advantage that did it and saying Martinez is a b1tch for fighting someone so small. But if Tyson Fury flattens Chisora which is a much bigger size difference, it wont be as much of an issue.

I'm sure we can go through all of boxing history and pick out exceptions to every point anybody has ever put forward. Doe.

What do you mean exceptions? So Adrien Broner going thru 3 weight classes is an exception to what you deem necessary of fighters?

Marvin Hagler a bitch doe, he didnt move up weight doe.

[CrookedRain]

How did you go from

"Should we have a Super Heavyweight division"
to
"Lower weight fighters should move up then" (Fighters have been doing this for over a century)

I know fighters move up. I'm saying maybe fighters without the aid of catch weights and draining should fight. If it means one is 147 on fight night and one is 160, in their comfortable weight classes. We have these size differences in heavyweight so why not at lower weights without draining, blowing up to uncomfortable weights?

If we can do it at heavyweight, then i'd like to see more skill vs big size difference at lower weights too, i know we have exceptions like Pacquiao but maybe more of it would be interesting.

[CrookedRain]

But we saw what happened to Broner with a real welterweight didn't we? Now everyones saying he doesnt belong at the weight.

whats the difference between that and if Fury flattens Chisora because he's so much bigger, nothing will be said of it.

[SlySlickSmooth]

I know fighters move up. I'm saying maybe fighters without the aid of catch weights and draining should fight. If it means one is 147 on fight night and one is 160, in their comfortable weight classes. We have these size differences in heavyweight so why not at lower weights without draining, blowing up to uncomfortable weights?

If we can do it at heavyweight, then i'd like to see more skill vs big size difference at lower weights too, i know we have exceptions like Pacquiao but maybe more of it would be interesting.

Are you new to boxing or something? Have you never seen a multiple weight champion? There's a bunch of them even today.

And if you're just calling for fighters to fight in difference of 15-20 pounds, you do realize fighters DRAIN THEMSELVES to fight at lower weight classes? Such as Pacquiao being 140 in the ring during his featherweight days?

[CrookedRain]

Of course i know boxing and i agree with many of the points you make.

I was just asking a simple question of why such big size differences are tolerated at a higher weight than a lower weight? how many people have you seen cry over the Mayweather v Marquez fight here? and how many will cry about Martinez v Cotto should Martinez beat him when really these size differences are not that much compared to some heavyweight fights?

Maybe we should have less weight divisions instead.

I'm sure i can go through every point or debate you have made and make exceptions to everything you say and that's part of the point really, you are proving my point of wanting more fighters to prove to be an exception. I'm not actually disagreeing with what you say. If we can have Tyson fighting someone as big as Lewis, then the likes of Andre Ward should be letting someone like Chad Dawson fight at 175.

I guess i'm just very much against weight draining and more for fighters challenging themselves more. If the big guys can do it then the smaller ones should do it more.

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No disrespect OP, I know where you're coming from however it's just going to make more people want to avoid each other due to weight classes and we will lose even more fights in the division than we already have. I think they could however fiddle with Cruiserweights max limit to maybe 207lbs or so which allows the likes of Adamek, Chagaev and smaller HW's n so fight in a division where we can have more fights. It's hard for a guy between 5'10-6'1 to compete with today's HW's so maybe a little less restriction on weight could allow them to be more comfortable.