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  • KillaMane26
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    #61
    Froch has one of the best resumes n boxing....he is underrated

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    • Chrismart
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      #62
      Froch is underrated. He's also a smarter fighter than people give him credit for.

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      • MDPopescu
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        #63
        Froch "is big" in the sense that he can call his own shots and make huge gates and huge money.
        They aren't too many around these days...

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          #64
          Originally posted by chrismart83
          Froch is underrated. He's also a smarter fighter than people give him credit for.
          I've always wrote here that Froch is smart -- inside and outside the ring.

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          • hugh grant
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            #65
            Overating Froch? Considering many expected Groves to beat Froch ( I wasn't one of them) I would say Froch is underated. Groves dismissing Froch before the fight, and Degale saying Froch would be easy for him.

            And Froch keeps winning, and he pushed Ward as well.

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              #66
              Originally posted by AliBombaye
              You guys are letting your emotions get the better of you after seeing that KO. You all need to calm down and ask yourselves what happened prior to that KO.

              If Chavez Jr KO'd Sergio in the 12th it wouldn't mean Chavez was better or is now a P4P fighter, it wouldn't erase the fact he got schooled for 11.5 rounds prior.

              I am in no way shape or form a Froch hater, that guy his tremendously overachieved in my book and that's great for him and his family and I wish them all the best. My bills do not get paid by either fighter, I just tell it like it really is from a realest perspective not some emotional fanboy.

              What Froch really is, is a P4P puncher, not boxer or fighter. His flurries were hitting nothing but Groves gloves, arms and air, Groves was countering beautifully during the flurries as if he was seeing them in slow mo.
              Similar how Pac was busting JMM up, and going for the ko, when JMM ko'ed Pac. Yet Pac haters or Floyd fans talk about how great JMM is, and how rubbish Pac is, even though Pac was winning.

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              • AliBombaye
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                #67
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                Similar how Pac was busting JMM up, and going for the ko, when JMM ko'ed Pac. Yet Pac haters or Floyd fans talk about how great JMM is, and how rubbish Pac is, even though Pac was winning.
                Difference is Marquez's ring IQ, combinations, boxing technique are all above Froch's by far. Not only that but Marquez has always been competitive in all the Pacman fights. Only thing that surprised people was that as Marquez moved up in weight his power increased and was able to KO Manny where as before he was unable to even get Manny on the canvas not even a flash knock down.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by AliBombaye
                  You guys are letting your emotions get the better of you after seeing that KO. You all need to calm down and ask yourselves what happened prior to that KO.

                  If Chavez Jr KO'd Sergio in the 12th it wouldn't mean Chavez was better or is now a P4P fighter, it wouldn't erase the fact he got schooled for 11.5 rounds prior.

                  I am in no way shape or form a Froch hater, that guy his tremendously overachieved in my book and that's great for him and his family and I wish them all the best. My bills do not get paid by either fighter, I just tell it like it really is from a realest perspective not some emotional fanboy.

                  What Froch really is, is a P4P puncher, not boxer or fighter. His flurries were hitting nothing but Groves gloves, arms and air, Groves was countering beautifully during the flurries as if he was seeing them in slow mo.

                  Anyone with at least Groves's level of boxing skills and a chin that can withstand at least a few hard shots from Carl can out box him easily.

                  The only reason for a Ward rematch would be so Ward can earn some money, it's clear as day he'd get schooled even worse this time with 2 healthy hands from Ward.

                  Golovkin would simply neutralize anything Froch does and work on his body and pick him apart with a late TKO.

                  Kovalev, he'd punish Froch with every blow and TKO/KO him earlier than Golovkin would.

                  Stevenson, Carl has a legit chance of beating him, his chin isn't that great, he fights like a young Pacman, he constantly throws a sloppy jab followed by a left straight. I would favour Froch 65/35 in this match, would be more if Stevenson didn't have that power.

                  Groves, there is no need for another bout between the two unless their paths genuinely collide. Groves has shown he can out box, out speed, out smart Carl. He just doesn't have the chin to withstand that punch that can change a fight which is what's kept Froch going strong and most likely every time between them that punch will land on his chin and Groves would walk away with an L.

                  Respect to both men tonight and wish them nothing but the best.
                  That's what P4P fighter is someone with a P4P mind and can do things to open up the fight for himself. He was in there with a younger, faster, and possibly harder puncher. He did what he needed to to get Groves to over commit. I said at the begining that he was way stronger and in better shape. The fight went nothing like the first fight. Rewatch it. Give Froch some credit. He's obviously a better fighter than these guys that can box for 10 rounds and then fall apart. He's an actual fighter not a poser!

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by AliBombaye
                    You guys are letting your emotions get the better of you after seeing that KO. You all need to calm down and ask yourselves what happened prior to that KO.

                    If Chavez Jr KO'd Sergio in the 12th it wouldn't mean Chavez was better or is now a P4P fighter, it wouldn't erase the fact he got schooled for 11.5 rounds prior.

                    I am in no way shape or form a Froch hater, that guy his tremendously overachieved in my book and that's great for him and his family and I wish them all the best. My bills do not get paid by either fighter, I just tell it like it really is from a realest perspective not some emotional fanboy.

                    What Froch really is, is a P4P puncher, not boxer or fighter. His flurries were hitting nothing but Groves gloves, arms and air, Groves was countering beautifully during the flurries as if he was seeing them in slow mo.

                    Anyone with at least Groves's level of boxing skills and a chin that can withstand at least a few hard shots from Carl can out box him easily.

                    The only reason for a Ward rematch would be so Ward can earn some money, it's clear as day he'd get schooled even worse this time with 2 healthy hands from Ward.

                    Golovkin would simply neutralize anything Froch does and work on his body and pick him apart with a late TKO.

                    Kovalev, he'd punish Froch with every blow and TKO/KO him earlier than Golovkin would.

                    Stevenson, Carl has a legit chance of beating him, his chin isn't that great, he fights like a young Pacman, he constantly throws a sloppy jab followed by a left straight. I would favour Froch 65/35 in this match, would be more if Stevenson didn't have that power.

                    Groves, there is no need for another bout between the two unless their paths genuinely collide. Groves has shown he can out box, out speed, out smart Carl. He just doesn't have the chin to withstand that punch that can change a fight which is what's kept Froch going strong and most likely every time between them that punch will land on his chin and Groves would walk away with an L.

                    Respect to both men tonight and wish them nothing but the best.
                    That's what P4P fighter is someone with a P4P mind and can do things to open up the fight for himself. He was in there with a younger, faster, and possibly harder puncher. He did what he needed to to get Groves to over commit. I said at the begining that he was way stronger and in better shape. The fight went nothing like the first fight. Rewatch it. Give Froch some credit. He's obviously a better fighter than these guys that can box for 10 rounds and then fall apart. He's an actual fighter not a poser! He adapted and did what he needed to. He's done this a number of times with other fighters that were also more talented than him. There's a difference between talent and being an actual fighter. Talent and skill are 2 different things. Froch has the mind and the will and the chin and the punch to be an all time great.

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                    • Jloro
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                      #70
                      He was underrated after the first Groves fight, people are nothing but bandwagoners lol

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