Pacqiao's Legacy is in Marquez's Hands

[Moon]

Morales is on Pac's path to Marquez. It's a fact, not debatable. Simply put, after March 19 Marquez will be the one Feather belt holder Pac hasn't beaten. But, Pac will be without titles, that's all. He'll then need Marquez to make that happen, that's all.

You don't need to defend Morales based on what I've said. I take nothing away from that warrior in my talk about Championship legacy.

[tracylee]

Fantastic post. That's all i can say

Thank you!

[tracylee]

day in day out as many PAC NUTHUGGERS I can see, that include myself, finally I SEE a FEW JMM NUTHUGGERS in action and giving JMM too much credit for pricing himself out of a fight and putting down PAC so far down that Manny must beat EM (first) and MAB (again) then beat JMM to gain his TRUE LEGACY...

he he he, nuthugging is getting better everyday, and we PACFANS dont have the MONOPOLY on this, i always need a good laugh in the morning, LOL ...

That truth here is PAC & JMM has to settle unfinished business it works both ways, PAC outslugged JMM and JMM outboxed PAC, the fight was so close that the three judges saw 3 version of the fight and all the Fans have different version of their own...

PAC & JMM must face each other again to prove who is the best FW on the planet, but have to remind everybody that JMM dont have time on his side, this fight must happen soon and I am hoping that PAC-JMM 2 will be Manny's next fight ...

Tell me, have I EVER, even one time called anyone a 'nuthugger'? I dont just mean pac fans..I mean in general...I havent. I dont know about you guys, but I dont actually "hug" anyones nuts!

[m00ks]

Munn, JMM has nothing on his record to be truly remebered. He is a great counterpuncher and people might recall that he was the "avoided" one, an outstanding fighter with a great heart and a consistant champion but he would never be spoken as one of boxing's great. HE has to chase the great ones to leave a mark. HE has to step up at one point or another. He had a chance to beat Pacquiao and finally be truly recognize as the game's best but he also failed to accomplish that. Pacquiao does not need Marquez any more than Marquez needs Pacquiao end of story. He'll have to learn to make sacrifices and finally realize that you cannot put a price in earning a spot among the finest and greatest warriors of the sport. Pride is a tough thing to swallow but you have to do what you have to do and when oppurtunities are there for the taking, you grab it and never let go. He failed to do that and he is only to blame.

[SalvaDominicano]

Ahh, telling me sweet little lies, are ya

What EVER do u mean tracy? lol

[psychopath]

Morales is on Pac's path to Marquez. It's a fact, not debatable. Simply put, after March 19 Marquez will be the one Feather belt holder Pac hasn't beaten. But, Pac will be without titles, that's all. He'll then need Marquez to make that happen, that's all.

You don't need to defend Morales based on what I've said. I take nothing away from that warrior in my talk about Championship legacy.

The way you sound you are giving so much weight on the alphabet boxing bodie's titles. Those title simply means paying for sanctioning fees, nothing more

No dude Marquez was on Pac's path to Morales . . . not until this late development . . . now there's no needs for Pac to fight JMM who is trying to move mountains to escape the humilation of getting flattened by Pac again. After EM, PAC doesn't need to fight JMM anymore, he doesn't need the belts and title because he has his own . . . the ring's title.

Real stature goes with real money . . . that is where Pac is rightnow, ON TOP, the pound for pound best Feather Weight, a Marquee fighter. And if Manny wanted to get one of those ABC boxibg bodies' belt it doesn't have to be that of JMMs . . . he can fight CHI or Harrison. Sorry for JMM but he blew his chance. Any other fighter could have grab that opportunity to fight for the No 1 pound for pound title even for free.

Championship LEGACY? Yeah say that to JMM who chose to fight Salido instead of a p4p fighter in Manny.

[Moon]

Munn, HE has to chase the great ones to leave a mark. HE has to step up at one point or another. He had a chance to beat Pacquiao and finally be truly recognized as the game's best but he also failed to accomplish that. He failed to do that and he is only to blame.

MOOKS ... My original post was not a comparison of Marquez's legacy versus Pac's legacy. That discussion is simply a distraction from what I first said. To summarize .... without defeating the reigning Marquez, Manny's legacy is a question mark, but, by beating Marquez, it's a done deal.

But, please also keep one thing in mind as you question Marquez. He's already "chased" Pacman and retained the belts.

According to you, it seems that JMM should be again chasing the "great" Pacman? Was Pac "great" before he fought JMM? If so, then give JMM credit for chasing the "greats". Or maybe Pac is one of the "greats" based on his draw with JMM? If that's the case, then JMM must be truly held in high regard.

MOOKS, all kinding aside, chasing the greats doesn't make your Legacy for you. But, beating the so-called "greats" will do it. Then add retaining your titles. There's no question Pac is making a Legacy for himself by handling first Barrera, and now quite likely handling Morales. But, even if Pac walks through Morales, the fight everybody wants, so that Pac can assume his rightful place, is Marquez. Manny will only have built the Legacy he wants when he beats all the top guys, this means Marquez.

Marquez and Pac will meet again. We agree, both their legacies will possibly be scribed by the result. My point stands, Manny needs Marquez. Marquez remains Champ after having faced Pac, while Pac gets to claim he "drew" the Champ. Who needs who more?

[Moon]

The way you sound you are giving so much weight on the alphabet boxing bodie's titles. Those title simply means paying for sanctioning fees, nothing more

Championship LEGACY? Yeah say that to JMM who chose to fight Salido instead of a p4p fighter in Manny.

Seems your beef is actually with Pac then, not me. He's said that he's proud of Ring's title, but will not be satisfied until he holds the WBA and IBF Championships. Seems you hold the "People's Champ" staus in higher regard than Pac himself.

Regarding Salido, he was a mandatory, that's all. Something that Pac will need to consider, when he finally gets a Feather belt.

[JaNnO]

MOOKS ... My original post was not a comparison of Marquez's legacy versus Pac's legacy. That discussion is simply a distraction from what I first said. To summarize .... without defeating the reigning Marquez, Manny's legacy is a question mark, but, by beating Marquez, it's a done deal.

But, please also keep one thing in mind as you question Marquez. He's already "chased" Pacman and retained the belts.

According to you, it seems that JMM should be again chasing the "great" Pacman? Was Pac "great" before he fought JMM? If so, then give JMM credit for chasing the "greats". Or maybe Pac is one of the "greats" based on his draw with JMM? If that's the case, then JMM must be truly held in high regard.

MOOKS, all kinding aside, chasing the greats doesn't make your Legacy for you. But, beating the so-called "greats" will do it. Then add retaining your titles. There's no question Pac is making a Legacy for himself by handling first Barrera, and now quite likely handling Morales. But, even if Pac walks through Morales, the fight everybody wants, so that Pac can assume his rightful place, is Marquez. Manny will only have built the Legacy he wants when he beats all the top guys, this means Marquez.

Marquez and Pac will meet again. We agree, both their legacies will possibly be scribed by the result. My point stands, Manny needs Marquez. Marquez remains Champ after having faced Pac, while Pac gets to claim he "drew" the Champ. Who needs who more?

Pac was the one chasing JMM but JMM priced himself out of the rematch and even up to now can't find a "worthy" opponent his team knows he can beat.

Now assuming Pac beats Erik, he can forget about JMM and go after MAB for the superfeather champ. If he beats MAB again (which I think he will) then he can chase better oppositions at 130 andl et Marquez march closer to retirement fighting nobodies.

Pac gets to claim JMM was lucky the judges robbed him of his championships -- and then chickened out in the rematch.

[Sister Sledge]

Even though JMM proved to be the superior boxer after the first round, he didn't win the fight. He proved that he has the style to be Pacman, be there are questions that still linger. The fact that he priced himself out of a rematch raises even more questions. Can Pac beat JMM? I don't know, but after the first round of their first fight it didn't look like he could. These guys need to fight each other to answer all the questions