Comments Thread For: Floyd Mayweather Explains Altercation With Rapper T.I.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

You just rambled on about me making assumptions about you then proceeded to make a bunch about me

Actually it wasn't white people commenting on the black community that ended slavery, it was the fact that ****** fought and died for their freedom, it meant that slavery was no longer economically viable and simply not sustainable. Your ridiculous ramblings are just making a mockery of that sacrifice.




Well this doesn't make any sense I said the exact same thing before and your response was that you weren't speaking on behalf of black people, now your response is this which one is it?

No, I was talking about my self... I don't try and assume anything about you rueban, but you clearly told me I wouldn't say those things if I wasn't white, or i wouldn't talk about the incident if it was white people which is utter nonsense.. I believe I bashed spadafora when he was being an idiot and had his troubles with the law.,, it doesn't matter about your skin color but how you act..

And too act like white people had nothing to do with ending slavery is about the dumbest thing I have ever read...
UNDERGROUND RAILROAD ring a bell, probably not since you stated earlier that using your brain and doing good in school isn't that great..
You do realize that black leaders in Africa were greatly responsible for enslaving some of the tribes and selling them...
Honestly I can't believe anyone would dispute that white people had a role in ending slavery when they most certainly did

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I actually respect all the opinions expressed. Clearly I had a problem with categorizing your opinion in a way that made it possibly look like it was inflammatory or racially derisive when I thought it wasn't. having established that I then indicated my opinion about your statement. I could have tried to be more supportive but you cannot cite the head of BET as a positive role model!!! Nooooo!!!!!

Anyhow Anyhow yes they are bad bad role models! But is anyone arguing that? The argument is how significant they are as role models.

No, people are arguing that I'm wrong for saying that they are role models.. Literally said they were bad role models for the urban youth, who Floyd and TI Both market themselves towards, and now all of a sudden it's a racial thing.. Even though Floyd and arum have both been on the record as saying that the reason Floyd left was because arum wouldn't market him to the urban community because arum didn't think it would produce cash...when in fact, Floyd was dead right, started marketing himself as a bad boy, money may etc to the urban market and became a huge star and the face of boxing... To say he doesn't have influence when your the highest paid athlete in the world is nonsense

[Fr@nkyboi]

Floyd you lose all street cred when you walk in the ring alongside Justin Beaver (no typo)

[J The UnBiased]

[QUOTE=Sugar Adam Ali;14591467]That's so ******.... So one cannot say that it's a shame that Mexico is corrupted by the drug cartels.. I'm not Mexican so I can't make that statement.. Only Mexicans can have an opinion on how things are in their environment



That's dumb.,, being smart and doing good in school is a good thing.. Never seen one person say education is bad".. But yes the bob johnson example was a poor one.. Damon from fubu or ***** are much better examples

I never singled out hip hop as the only form of music that's influential, I brought up David Allan Coe, a white racist country singer that a lot of white youth like because they think he is funny with his racist songs...

Not trying to paint the kardashians for the whole white community but the young white girls that watch that garbage, and the real world, and teen mom on MTV. Those are horrible influences on young girls..
Conservative talk show hosts are also horrible influences as well..
Was never trying to say all black people are like Floyd and TI, just that there is a segment of the youth population that does idolize and emulate them..
I highly doubt I'm gonna see ***** threaten Lebron for being at the same party as Michelle... Do I think you and j the unbiased are gonna go brawling at the local fat burger, no.. But I do think this has a negative impact
And I agree that, yes this incident isn't the end of the world and soon be forgotten but how many times has incidents like this happen.. Stuff like this is becoming the norm, sad to say



So what you are saying is that black kids need to see Floyd and TI as role models

Black kids don't need to work hard and be a successful entrepreneur

I understand now,, and with thoughts like that, no wonder society is so messed up...

If you read my posts in this thread and the others pertaining to it, I have put the blame on TI, but that doesn't mean Floyd is an angel..
Convicted wife beater, threatens his dad on national tv and calls him a ******, multiple run-ins with the law, posting about how you broke up with ms Jackson because she had an ********,,, that's all really classy stuff... Do you condone that behavior, is that what you think is cool



No you don't get it, but it wouldn't expect you to, obviously you love playing the race card and are quick to jump on someone nonblack who says something about black people with no regard to what they are actually saying..
You fools are saying stuff like kids shouldn't get an education, shouldn't work hard, etc.... It's pathetic

See now you're being emotional and reaching at this point. Neither of us said that kids shouldn't get an education or work hard, so I ask you, why are you blatantly lying?

Next, in my previous post I made it more than clear that I don't believe you to be a racist, still don't believe you to be one. However I believe you are ignorant and misinformed.

I never said black kids need to see Floyd and T.I. as role models, and I also never said Bob Johnson needs to be one either. But, I however have no problem with kids from my community seeing a young kid like themselves work hard, discipline himself, say no to the street life, train every day of his life to one day make it to the Olympics and then turn into one of the greatest fighters of all time. I have no problem with a kid who wants to do that. See unlike you Mr. Adam, I understand that there is more than one side to every "role model" in my community.

[chicano box]

T.i is a chump and his music blows.

[J The UnBiased]

No, I was talking about my self... I don't try and assume anything about you rueban, but you clearly told me I wouldn't say those things if I wasn't white, or i wouldn't talk about the incident if it was white people which is utter nonsense.. I believe I bashed spadafora when he was being an idiot and had his troubles with the law.,, it doesn't matter about your skin color but how you act..

And too act like white people had nothing to do with ending slavery is about the dumbest thing I have ever read...
UNDERGROUND RAILROAD ring a bell, probably not since you stated earlier that using your brain and doing good in school isn't that great..
You do realize that black leaders in Africa were greatly responsible for enslaving some of the tribes and selling them...
Honestly I can't believe anyone would dispute that white people had a role in ending slavery when they most certainly did

This is where we test if you know what the **** you're talking about or not. What percentage of Africans were sold into slavery by their own? You should know this, so I'm expecting an answer. Not a guess but an actual answer since you are trying to equate the blame of slavery on Africans with the Europeans.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Simply paying attention in school and using your brain isn't a good thing by itself, BET has been responsible for putting out 'negativity'. It was a terrible example.

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I already responded to this point, I don't think they have any life-altering influence other than inspiring people in their respective fields.

This incident is very minor and isn't influential, it is so insignificant that I wouldn't condone or condemn it as I already said.



You specifically said that hip hop was unlike other music in its influence and negativity.

Are you trying to paint the Kardashians as representatives and exclusive influencers of the white community? Very transparent.

"Black kids need to stoplooking at Floyd and T.I. as role models"

"Black kids need to work hard and be Bob Johnson"

I understand though lol, we're over reacting.

[QUOTE=J The UnBiased;14591491]

That's so ******.... So one cannot say that it's a shame that Mexico is corrupted by the drug cartels.. I'm not Mexican so I can't make that statement.. Only Mexicans can have an opinion on how things are in their environment



That's dumb.,, being smart and doing good in school is a good thing.. Never seen one person say education is bad".. But yes the bob johnson example was a poor one.. Damon from fubu or ***** are much better examples

I never singled out hip hop as the only form of music that's influential, I brought up David Allan Coe, a white racist country singer that a lot of white youth like because they think he is funny with his racist songs...

Not trying to paint the kardashians for the whole white community but the young white girls that watch that garbage, and the real world, and teen mom on MTV. Those are horrible influences on young girls..
Conservative talk show hosts are also horrible influences as well..
Was never trying to say all black people are like Floyd and TI, just that there is a segment of the youth population that does idolize and emulate them..
I highly doubt I'm gonna see ***** threaten Lebron for being at the same party as Michelle... Do I think you and j the unbiased are gonna go brawling at the local fat burger, no.. But I do think this has a negative impact
And I agree that, yes this incident isn't the end of the world and soon be forgotten but how many times has incidents like this happen.. Stuff like this is becoming the norm, sad to say



So what you are saying is that black kids need to see Floyd and TI as role models

Black kids don't need to work hard and be a successful entrepreneur

I understand now,, and with thoughts like that, no wonder society is so messed up...



See now you're being emotional and reaching at this point. Neither of us said that kids shouldn't get an education or work hard, so I ask you, why are you blatantly lying?

Next, in my previous post I made it more than clear that I don't believe you to be a racist, still don't believe you to be one. However I believe you are ignorant and misinformed.

I never said black kids need to see Floyd and T.I. as role models, and I also never said Bob Johnson needs to be one either. But, I however have no problem with kids from my community seeing a young kid like themselves work hard, discipline himself, say no to the street life, train every day of his life to one day make it to the Olympics and then turn into one of the greatest fighters of all time. I have no problem with a kid who wants to do that. See unlike you Mr. Adam, I understand that there is more than one side to every "role model" in my community.

Look at the bold and don't tell me you guys didn't post those and were being sarcastic to me, and then deny that you said those things and that I'm lying..

I agree bob johnson was a bad example, I just know what he accomplished with his mind and smarts but honestly have never heard anything about his personal love..
Floyd for his career is a great role model,, nothing wrong with the way he handles himself at the gym or in the ring, a true professional that always stays in shape, and is always focused. But Floyd outside of the ring is another story.. Would you want your child to be a convicted wife beater, multiple run ins with the law, threatening your own dad and calling him a fa$$ot on national tv, posting about your ex girlfriend having an ********.. That's the stuff that drags Floyd down from being a true ambassador to the world

[Sugar Adam Ali]

This is where we test if you know what the **** you're talking about or not. What percentage of Africans were sold into slavery by their own? You should know this, so I'm expecting an answer. Not a guess but an actual answer since you are trying to equate the blame of slavery on Africans with the Europeans.

I don't know the exact stats...that's a gotcha question and a straw man arguement...
Lots of different people are too blame... And lots of different people are to be thanked for ending it...

To say it was only white people that did the enslaving, and that it was only black people who were against it and made it stop, is not a true accurate statement on reality..
Whites and blacks came together to end it, and whites and some blacks also started it

To generalize and ignore what whites did to end slavery is short sighted.. And yes black people also played a huge role as well.. But to just single out whites is not accurate at all

[justmejoe]

No, people are arguing that I'm wrong for saying that they are role models.. Literally said they were bad role models for the urban youth, who Floyd and TI Both market themselves towards, and now all of a sudden it's a racial thing.. Even though Floyd and arum have both been on the record as saying that the reason Floyd left was because arum wouldn't market him to the urban community because arum didn't think it would produce cash...when in fact, Floyd was dead right, started marketing himself as a bad boy, money may etc to the urban market and became a huge star and the face of boxing... To say he doesn't have influence when your the highest paid athlete in the world is nonsense

Try again. You make no sense

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Try again. You make no sense

When you can't read or comprehend, nothing will make sense to you... Now be a good alt and **** off and allow the adults to have the conversation..