Comments Thread For: Floyd Mayweather Explains Altercation With Rapper T.I.

[billeau2]

No you made a bunch of claims in your earlier post talking about how them being positive role models would help the black community or some ****. You described the founder of bet as a positive role model for black people LOL, one of the ******est things I've heard in a while.

You have continually tried to speak on behalf of black people trying to say what a good role model is and how it would help black people.

I don't really see it as being influential or significant to anyones lives, unless something more comes of it, it will be forgotten very quickly. Its nothing for me to condone or condemn, so far its only been a minor incident. I don't really see what Floyd did wrong in the situation tbh, I need you to explain that...

Actually your concept of role models in the black community is what's really narrow minded. At what point did it become the responsibility of boxers and rappers to combat the issues of an entire demographic, they are entertainers. Celebrities of any other race are not held up to the same standard. Also notice how you go on about hip hop as a negative force, what about the glorification of drug use in other music, funny how you don't mention Johnny Cash who basically had the same subject matter of a gangster rapper.

You wouldn't have made any of these comments if they weren't black ,you wouldn't make any of these not-so-subtle comments about classiness, urban, youth etc if they were white or Hispanic.

Also the idea of public figures like entertainers is a bit ****** to begin with in the first place. These are people like you and me who aren't perfect and their purpose isn't to be a saint for their fans. Most of the people who are 'role models' do negative things whether they are public or not doesn't make them any better or worse. Lots of people considered Leonard a great role model until they found out he was a coke sniffing wife beater. Heavily sourcing your influence from someone you don't know personally and is only known to you from entertainment is a problem in the first place, not a solution.

This a real mess....As a white guy raised in a spanish.black hood I agree with your opinion 100 percent....And if that is not confusing enough?

I also think you and the others who would deny others an opinion about the issue because of their race is censorship. This is a message board and everyone is entitled to an opinion without being accused of making determinations that are racilly inscrutable.

news flash: you don't have to be black to have an opinion about the black community ok?

I happen to think Sugar's opinion is wrong as wrong can be but I defend his right to it, and any opinions you may have about white people....of which you may never know from the perspective of a caucasian but surely have interacted enough to have feelings and insights about to share.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I feel really bad for Sugar but Ruben is right. Ok?

No, Reuben is spouting off at the mouth in defense mode without even reading or at least comprehending my posts..

To say I wouldn't say it if I was black,, that's about as absurd as you can get. And is basically saying what a TI did was ok..

He asks me to explain what Floyd did wrong, when if he could actually comprehend he would see that in my posts and in others related to it, I put the blame on TI...

To say someone can't have judgement because they aren't black is about as ignorant as it gets

[Sugar Adam Ali]

This a real mess....As a white guy raised in a spanish.black hood I agree with your opinion 100 percent....And if that is not confusing enough?

I also think you and the others who would deny others an opinion about the issue because of their race is censorship. This is a message board and everyone is entitled to an opinion without being accused of making determinations that are racilly inscrutable.

news flash: you don't have to be black to have an opinion about the black community ok?

I happen to think Sugar's opinion is wrong as wrong can be but I defend his right to it, and any opinions you may have about white people....of which you may never know from the perspective of a caucasian but surely have interacted enough to have feelings and insights about to share.

How am I wrong?

Is Floyd a good role model.... Yes or no

[GoldenGloveLove]

Good statement from Money.

[billeau2]

How am I wrong?

Is Floyd a good role model.... Yes or no

in my humble opinion as a caucasian authority on these matters...who on no way claims to know from th......

Ok. Your wrong because you assume that one community looks up to these guys as a role model in a way that is separate and distinct from others.....There is indeed a misconception that an African American youth would find Floyd or the other idiot role model and that a Caucasian youth would not....when in fact the difference is economic and not racial. The segmenting of looking for guidance from a select group has to do with economic opportunity not racial differences and the proof is in the demographics of consumption (who buys stuff), the attitudes of various youth in select demographics, etc.

The problems in the African American communities while distinct to that group do not present as being based on role modelling more/or less than any other group Sugar...thats a fact by the way and i dare say NO youth would find the founder of BET a role model because he is not known to that age group...therefore it is irrespective of race that he is not held up...good thing because he is a ****er in the worse way of his people imo.

[RubenSonny]

No, Reuben is spouting off at the mouth in defense mode without even reading or at least comprehending my posts..

To say I wouldn't say it if I was black,, that's about as absurd as you can get. And is basically saying what a TI did was ok..

He asks me to explain what Floyd did wrong, when if he could actually comprehend he would see that in my posts and in others related to it, I put the blame on TI...

To say someone can't have judgement because they aren't black is about as ignorant as it gets

I didn't say you wouldn't say it because you were black, I said if they weren't black you wouldn't.

1. Are TI and Floyd not idolized by portions of the youth for their status and success?

2. Did they act like idiots in this situation or do you condone and support their actions?

That is what you said to me, you didn't exclusively say TI, so yes I responded to you correctly, clearly it is you who needs to read your posts again.

To say someone has a credible judgement because they 'have black friends' is about as ignorant as it gets.

[RubenSonny]

This a real mess....As a white guy raised in a spanish.black hood I agree with your opinion 100 percent....And if that is not confusing enough?

I also think you and the others who would deny others an opinion about the issue because of their race is censorship. This is a message board and everyone is entitled to an opinion without being accused of making determinations that are racilly inscrutable.

news flash: you don't have to be black to have an opinion about the black community ok?

I happen to think Sugar's opinion is wrong as wrong can be but I defend his right to it, and any opinions you may have about white people....of which you may never know from the perspective of a caucasian but surely have interacted enough to have feelings and insights about to share.

I haven't denied any opinion, you are right this is a message board, my opinion is that his opinion is wrong and that someone who isn't part of the black community shouldn't attempt to speak on behalf of it.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

in my humble opinion as a caucasian authority on these matters...who on no way claims to know from th......

Ok. Your wrong because you assume that one community looks up to these guys as a role model in a way that is separate and distinct from others.....There is indeed a misconception that an African American youth would find Floyd or the other idiot role model and that a Caucasian youth would not....when in fact the difference is economic and not racial. The segmenting of looking for guidance from a select group has to do with economic opportunity not racial differences and the proof is in the demographics of consumption (who buys stuff), the attitudes of various youth in select demographics, etc.

The problems in the African American communities while distinct to that group do not present as being based on role modelling more/or less than any other group Sugar...thats a fact by the way and i dare say NO youth would find the founder of BET a role model because he is not known to that age group...therefore it is irrespective of race that he is not held up...good thing because he is a ****er in the worse way of his people imo.

I didn't assume anything... To act like Floyd and TI aren't influential in the black youth community is absurd... I guarantee you they are more popular in irban areas than in some rural country area.. So it's ****** to act like they have no influence at all..
If we were talking about rush Limbaugh, I would say it's a shame that so many white people buy into his rhetoric.
Said the same about kardashian and teen mom on MTV..

There are horrible role models for all races. This thread just happen to be about Floyd and TI, so good forbide you mention urban role models..

People need to get their panties out of a bunch..
Floyd and TI are idiots and bad role models and I feel sorry for whoever looks upon as being cool and that's the way you should conduct yourself in public..

Having a chair throwing brawling mob in fat burger, doesn't exactly scream classy people

[billeau2]

I haven't denied any opinion, you are right this is a message board, my opinion is that his opinion is wrong and that someone who isn't part of the black community shouldn't attempt to speak on behalf of it.

How could his opinion be construed as "speaking on behalf" of any community?

[billeau2]

I didn't assume anything... To act like Floyd and TI aren't influential in the black youth community is absurd... I guarantee you they are more popular in irban areas than in some rural country area.. So it's ****** to act like they have no influence at all..
If we were talking about rush Limbaugh, I would say it's a shame that so many white people buy into his rhetoric.
Said the same about kardashian and teen mom on MTV..

There are horrible role models for all races. This thread just happen to be about Floyd and TI, so good forbide you mention urban role models..

People need to get their panties out of a bunch..
Floyd and TI are idiots and bad role models and I feel sorry for whoever looks upon as being cool and that's the way you should conduct yourself in public..

Having a chair throwing brawling mob in fat burger, doesn't exactly scream classy people

But thats just it.....they are indeed idiots and that means for ANY community. Their color has nothing to do with it and to me thats where your opinion is wrong. Justin Beiber has A LOT in common with Floyd and the reason is because of his status and actions.... If Floyd and the other idiot were "a Black thing" you would indeed see dispraportianate black patronage of their goods and services and as IM Dazed has said you don't.