Since when was Golovkin the worlds' best MW?

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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #11
    Because hypothetical wins are more important than real ones these days.

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    • Weebler I
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      #12
      He's not officially the best, he's #2 Ring and #2 TBR.

      Martinez is #1.

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      • Holywarrior
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        #13
        It's like people claiming Kovalev the best light heavy. Too many Europeans acting like idiots when ratings look right at them and say different.

        Look at some P4P lists here, by gawd.

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        • Beercules
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          #14
          Aside from Martinez (his injuries doe) I don't see anyone who's better than Gennady at 160. It's certainly not Peter "I was losing to Rosado" Quillin

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          • Weebler I
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            #15
            Originally posted by Holywarrior
            It's like people claiming Kovalev the best light heavy. Too many Europeans acting like idiots when ratings look right at them and say different.

            Look at some P4P lists here, by gawd.
            Kovalev is #3 and but imo he actually has a much better claim than Golovkin, he has beaten similar comp. to Stevenson.

            Fwiw Darnell Boone fought both, and he picked Kovalev to win.
            Last edited by Weebler I; 05-22-2014, 03:31 PM.

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            • Dr Rumack
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              #16
              He very well could be. Martinez did not look good against Murray. Remains to be seen whether that was a blip or not.

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              • Foreign Soil
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                #17
                Originally posted by Holywarrior
                It's like people claiming Kovalev the best light heavy. Too many Europeans acting like idiots when ratings look right at them and say different.

                Look at some P4P lists here, by gawd.
                More than enough fools on the other side of the fence to even it out. Broner's p4p #6 ranking will forever outdo anything near the realm of overhype.

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                • aaron.king
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                  #18
                  To reiterate what others have suggested, there is a failure in some cases to distinguish the champion (i.e. "the man") and the best fighter in the division. Most of the time, these two things overlap and there is no confusion. Right now at 160, the sense is that Martinez's physical decline has created a state in which, although he is the legit MW champ, there is rightly a question about whether he is the best fighter in his own division. Thus, you get two different interpretations of "world's best MW." Of course, it's all a matter of speculation for the time being. I say until the matter is decided in the ring, Martinez holds onto his claim as the best MW in the world.

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                  • komodo
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                    #19
                    No one's willing to fight him, that how you know he's the man to beat. Same is true for Kovalev when you got guys jumping networks to avoid getting an ass whooping.

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                    • Martinplateado
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by komodo
                      No one's willing to fight him, that how you know he's the man to beat. Same is true for Kovalev when you got guys jumping networks to avoid getting an ass whooping.
                      What about Lara and Ward?, Gennady wanted to fight Chavez at 168 but when somebody mentionss Ward "he still got business at 160" LOL

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