Why People Off Su****ion Get It Worse Than Actual Cheaters?

[fcastro1]

Well said, I don't think Marquez is clean if I'm being genuinely honest but at the very least, Marquez was willing to do the testing, he didn't look for a 30 day cutoff, he didn't pick the dates in which he wanted to be tested, he didn't also ask to change the procedure of 3-6 blood test into solely 3, we all know who did that. The fact that what I said, all facts, didn't leave his fans discontent only shows the hypocrisy. The anger is more within the fact that Marquez finished Pacquiao, that's where this bitterness comes from.

The crititicism is fair considering his biggest victory is likely down to cheating. All the signs are there. He is the most obvious abuser in the game.

[Doctor_Tenma]

The crititicism is fair considering his biggest victory is likely down to cheating. All the signs are there. He is the most obvious abuser in the game.

You fail to comprehend that Pacquiao wasn't demanding drug testing for the 4th fight, only Marquez expressed willingness to do it, Pacquiao for whatever reason (Common sense would tell you though) was unwilling. Really nothing to ***** about.

[fcastro1]

You fail to comprehend that Pacquiao wasn't demanding drug testing for the 4th fight, only Marquez expressed willingness to do it, Pacquiao for whatever reason (Common sense would tell you though) was unwilling. Really nothing to ***** about.

Pacquiaos choices has nothing to do with the fact marquez is cheating. Anyway memo got away with Olympic style testing for years. So do you think marquez is clea. You don't need to see an actual fire when you can see smoke and hear alarm bells going of.

[Weltschmerz]

Oh no, the inevitable has happened in this turning into a Pac/May thread.

[fcastro1]

People need to be real and stop being fanboys. Who cares if marquez is taking ped as long as he beats pacquiao. Who cares that he brings in memo. Who cares if he's showing signs of abuse. That's the type of mentality you guys are showing.

[DannYankee]

It's a serious question to you hardcore boxing(more like boxer) fans.

Roy Jones takes andro and is praised as a god. Hell looking at another thread, people have him as the best in the last couple decades and some as one of the greatest of all time. Yet they fail to realize(or don't want to believe it) that he cheated before.


Shane Mosley, although he never tested positive, he comes out on record admitting that he cheated in a fight vs Oscar De La Hoya. Yet people still think he should be in the HOF and no su****ion on his fights.

James Toney, just like Jones & Mosley, this guy gets praised like nothing happened even after getting busted for cheating TWICE!


Erik Morales, dude was a warrior and one hell of an exciting fighter but he got caught taking something that he shouldn't, him being a warrior before excuses him for cheating.

Tito Trinidad, gets caught red handed by ****m Richardson, yet his nationalistic fans claim it as mind games and it is wrong to suspect him in previous fights.

There is more but I'll stop with those 4 examples. Now on to the su****ious boxers.


Pacquiao, though su****ious because the needle excuse and other things, he NEVER tested positive for anything illegal. But a group of fans(mostly made up of Mayweather/Broner/The Flashy Flash Peeps) seems to always suspect something beyond that when he does something great.

Marquez, I will admit that acne looks suspect as hell but it does not make it a fact that he takes anything illegal.


Cheater but still heavily criticized for su****ions....

Margarito, like Trinidad he got caught red handed by ****m Richardson however there is no proof that he did it in other fights. Do fans have the right to be su****ious? Absolutely! But it seems more people(specially two fan bases) are upset he beat up Cotto than trying to cheat vs Mosley(another cheater)



So what's your opinion on why su****ious people get it worse by fans than the ones that actually cheated?

Thats some of the most hypocritical ridiculous biased **** I have seen, and all in one post to top it off. Very impressive the force is strong with this one .

[Dr Rumack]

Possibly because the guys you're talking about aren't currently relevant, whereas Marquez, Pacquiao, and Mayweather are three of the most relevant figures in the sport today.

[Black Barty]

People need to be real and stop being fanboys. Who cares if marquez is taking ped as long as he beats pacquiao. Who cares that he brings in memo. Who cares if he's showing signs of abuse. That's the type of mentality you guys are showing.

Who cares that Manny turned down OST and demanded all kinds of cut off dates?

Who cares that he and his team made one ****** excuse after another (and his fanboys ate the BS right up)?

Who cares that even Roach admitted he didn't know what Ariza was giving Manny?

Who cares that Manny's skull size doubled since his Featherweight days?

Who cares that he jumped up two weight classes and became MORE of a puncher than he had been at the lower weights?

Who cares about all this? Manny is beyond any su****ion, because he never tested positive. JMM didn't, either, but again, who cares? He is working with Memo Heredia. He is juicing, period.

[Weltschmerz]

Pretty sure JMM did, too.

Btw I have two questions I have yet to receive a satisfying answer to. I'm going to ask them now, maybe 1000th time is a charm:

1) How is JMM more su****ious than Manny?

(And please be more creative than "he hired Memo, 'nuff said".)

2) If Floyd only asked for OST in 2009 to have an excuse to duck Manny, then why didn't Manny call his bluff and agree to OST?

(Please don't mention "disrespect", "needle phobia", "blood draining" or any other ****** excuse Team Pac came up with.)

[Luilun]

It's a serious question to you hardcore boxing(more like boxer) fans.

Roy Jones takes andro and is praised as a god. Hell looking at another thread, people have him as the best in the last couple decades and some as one of the greatest of all time. Yet they fail to realize(or don't want to believe it) that he cheated before.


Shane Mosley, although he never tested positive, he comes out on record admitting that he cheated in a fight vs Oscar De La Hoya. Yet people still think he should be in the HOF and no su****ion on his fights.

James Toney, just like Jones & Mosley, this guy gets praised like nothing happened even after getting busted for cheating TWICE!


Erik Morales, dude was a warrior and one hell of an exciting fighter but he got caught taking something that he shouldn't, him being a warrior before excuses him for cheating.

Tito Trinidad, gets caught red handed by ****m Richardson, yet his nationalistic fans claim it as mind games and it is wrong to suspect him in previous fights.

There is more but I'll stop with those 4 examples. Now on to the su****ious boxers.


Pacquiao, though su****ious because the needle excuse and other things, he NEVER tested positive for anything illegal. But a group of fans(mostly made up of Mayweather/Broner/The Flashy Flash Peeps) seems to always suspect something beyond that when he does something great.

Marquez, I will admit that acne looks suspect as hell but it does not make it a fact that he takes anything illegal.


Cheater but still heavily criticized for su****ions....

Margarito, like Trinidad he got caught red handed by ****m Richardson however there is no proof that he did it in other fights. Do fans have the right to be su****ious? Absolutely! But it seems more people(specially two fan bases) are upset he beat up Cotto than trying to cheat vs Mosley(another cheater)



So what's your opinion on why su****ious people get it worse by fans than the ones that actually cheated?

What about Mayweather 3 failed test and now hidden test