Is GGG avoiding Ward or the other way around?

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  • BDSWhoAreYou
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    #51
    c'mon man.. does this even need to be asked? if anyone's ducking, it's ward ducking ggg... ggg still has alot of naysayers to prove wrong.. andre ward has waaaaaaay more to lose in persuing a fight against golovkin

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    • Pigeons
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      #52
      Originally posted by RAV3N
      I dont know why some people think that GGG should jump straight to 168 and fight the lineal champ straight away.

      He needs a few tune up fights against decent opponents before he takes on ward imo.

      I would also like to see him as the lineal chap at 160 before he moves up as well.
      Golovkin is 32 and has already had 29 tuneups. How many tuneups does one man need before testing himself against the best?

      Ward was 25 and had 20 fights when he fought the consensus best SMW in the world, Kessler, and wiped him out. Ward didn't have half the hype Golovkin has now.

      So I ask again, when will Golovkin step up?

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      • AKAcronym
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        #53
        Originally posted by Pigeons
        Golovkin is 32 and has already had 29 tuneups. How many tuneups does one man need before testing himself against the best?

        Ward was 25 and had 20 fights when he fought the consensus best SMW in the world, Kessler, and wiped him out. Ward didn't have half the hype Golovkin has now.

        So I ask again, when will Golovkin step up?
        Because he was in a tournament where he matched up against him? Not like he lobbied for it. He was lucky enough to get in the tournament. Don't get me wrong, I love Ward and believe he's one of the best of this decade and the end of the last, but people forget how fortunate he was to be accepted into that tourney where he was able to show off his talent. Completely different situation.

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        • RAV3N
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          #54
          Originally posted by Pigeons
          Golovkin is 32 and has already had 29 tuneups. How many tuneups does one man need before testing himself against the best?

          Ward was 25 and had 20 fights when he fought the consensus best SMW in the world, Kessler, and wiped him out. Ward didn't have half the hype Golovkin has now.

          So I ask again, when will Golovkin step up?
          He has had 0 tuneups at 168.

          Like I said in other posts he should fight martinez and then move to 168.

          Martinez would rather fight Cotto for money instead of fighting the other best 160 fighter in the world, it isnt GGG's fault.

          When he moves up to 168 he should first fight people like kessler, Froch and groves and then take on the lineal champ ward Ward.

          Many fighters take easier fights when first going into a weight division and then go for the best fighter there.

          Its not new to boxing, they have been doing it for years.

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            #55
            Originally posted by RAV3N
            He has had 0 tuneups at 168.

            Like I said in other posts he should fight martinez and then move to 168.

            Martinez would rather fight Cotto for money instead of fighting the other best 160 fighter in the world, it isnt GGG's fault.

            When he moves up to 168 he should first fight people like kessler, Froch and groves and then take on the lineal champ ward Ward.

            Many fighters take easier fights when first going into a weight division and then go for the best fighter there.

            Its not new to boxing, they have been doing it for years.
            Martinez's first fight at middleweight was against the lineal champion.

            GGG wanted to fight Chavez for money instead of the best fighter at 168.

            Why the excuses for GGG?

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            • -Kev-
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              #56
              Originally posted by AKAcronym
              Because they've been wanting a Chavez fight from the beginning? He just happened to move to 168 while they were targeting him. Doesn't mean Golovkin should jump straight into not only the best in the division but one of the best of the past several years. He should have a fight at 168 first-which Chavez was-to test the waters and see how he acclimates and then adjust from there for Ward. Why is this **** so hard to understand for people.
              From what beginning? GGG vs Ward was talked about by GGG and his people before GGG vs Chavez Jr. Why change recent history?

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                #57
                Originally posted by -Kev-
                From what beginning? GGG vs Ward was talked about by GGG and his people before GGG vs Chavez Jr. Why change recent history?
                Seriously? They've wanted Chavez for a long time. Also, Ward is on record saying him vs. GGG is a PPV fight down the line, so why rush things? I'm not defending one side or the other, but people need to research their **** first.

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                • RAV3N
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  Martinez's first fight at middleweight was against the lineal champion.

                  GGG wanted to fight Chavez for money instead of the best fighter at 168.

                  Why the excuses for GGG?
                  And Martinez lost that fight didnt he, maybe he should of had a tuneup first.

                  So you want GGG to jump straight into 168 and take on one of the best p4p fighters in the world with no tune ups, seems like a ****** idea to me.

                  I personally think ward is a much harder task then williams.

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                    #59
                    "Golovkin’s built his reputation on saying he’ll fight anybody. I raise my hand and say I’m somebody. Let’s do it. [But] nothing. And then they circumvent and try to go to Chavez. First they said we’re going to stay at 160 and clean it out. Then Chavez fell through and now it’s something else,” Ward would tell BoxingScene and other members of the media.


                    Andre Ward may not have fought in the ring since November of last year but he’s still been fighting outside of it trying to break free from his current promoter

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                    • Dirk Diggler UK
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by RAV3N
                      And Martinez lost that fight didnt he, maybe he should of had a tuneup first.

                      So you want GGG to jump straight into 168 and take on one of the best p4p fighters in the world with no tune ups, seems like a ****** idea to me.

                      I personally think ward is a much harder task then williams.
                      Martinez lost? So is that why he is still the lineal champion?

                      I don't care what he does but his fans need to pipe the *** down about people ducking him when he isn't willing to take certain fights himself

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