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Originally posted by mourinho1 View Postagree with this... JDD1 is on GOAT status again
My own opinion:
The best way to handle this would just to let the hands speak if mexicans are really offended, they should just find the most talented 140 pounds mexican and let him box Broner.
In general i dont like all the blackballing/suspending etc. type of tactics, its kinda childish. By now he probably allready learned his lesson. I also feel sorry for him if his right, freedom of speech has become less. I guess right now he wont be able to use the CANman jokes again...
He was kinda original with the CANman character/persona, he doesnt discriminate everyone CAN get it. Even Thurman uses it sometimes but in a more politically correct way.
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Originally posted by richardt View PostSo you missed the fact that Broner demeans Mexicans outside of his little scthick? I used 3 other examples, 2 that were used in interviews, and 1 outside an interview where there was no scthick involved.
What I am saying in addition to doing these things, after each fight he has done this schtick. when he does it, he targets all nationalities, not just one. So if you want to use his past against him, which is fair, use ALL of it.
Broner, out of the ring, has degraded mexicans. Broner after his fights mentions everyone. Frank DUcketts and others posted the full quote.
Given all of that, its hard to say he was uttering a slur. That said, if he offended the wrong people at the wrong time, which clearly he did, he should have expected this.
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Originally posted by JDD1 View PostThanks!
No I didn't. I acknowledged that he did. It seems you are saying what he said was racist because he did this in the past.
What I am saying in addition to doing these things, after each fight he has done this schtick. when he does it, he targets all nationalities, not just one. So if you want to use his past against him, which is fair, use ALL of it.
Broner, out of the ring, has degraded mexicans. Broner after his fights mentions everyone. Frank DUcketts and others posted the full quote.
Given all of that, its hard to say he was uttering a slur. That said, if he offended the wrong people at the wrong time, which clearly he did, he should have expected this.
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Originally posted by JDD1 View PostThanks!
No I didn't. I acknowledged that he did. It seems you are saying what he said was racist because he did this in the past.
What I am saying in addition to doing these things, after each fight he has done this schtick. when he does it, he targets all nationalities, not just one. So if you want to use his past against him, which is fair, use ALL of it.
Broner, out of the ring, has degraded mexicans. Broner after his fights mentions everyone. Frank DUcketts and others posted the full quote.
Given all of that, its hard to say he was uttering a slur. That said, if he offended the wrong people at the wrong time, which clearly he did, he should have expected this.Last edited by richardt; 05-08-2014, 12:58 PM.
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Originally posted by richardt View PostBroner out of the ring has degraded Mexicans and there is nothing he has ever said to swing the pendulum away from that fact. And no one is ****** to the point of not seeing how he was trying to cloak his subsequent statement about "beat the f.uck out of a Mexican" with the proceeding statement about "CAN's". No one was fooled. Not me, not the audience, not Jim Gray, not the WBC, not anyone. Broner has made 4 statements that shows what he feels about Mexicans. Not up for debate, not arguable.
I can't understand your reason for taking an extreme position other than a dislike for Broner. Frankly his statement on saturday pales in comparison to other things he's said or other statements like Bob comparing floyd to adolf hitler.
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Broner is a POS and I dislike him but to be honest what he said happened in US soil, it is his right to free speech. I understand if it were towards blacks, they'd riot and want you to sell your property but this suspension is pretty unfair.
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Originally posted by JDD1 View PostHe was cloaking it. That is utterly ridiculous. So when he went with the CAN schtick before 2011, did you react then? Of course not. Better yet, were you offended when he said africans, americans?
I can't understand your reason for taking an extreme position other than a dislike for Broner. Frankly his statement on saturday pales in comparison to other things he's said or other statements like Bob comparing floyd to adolf hitler.Last edited by richardt; 05-08-2014, 01:16 PM.
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Originally posted by Frank Ducketts View PostJust stop JDD. This is good news to him. He doesn't understand the precedent set. He's just glad Broner might be suspended lmao. It's deeper than what you're saying. Other good posters respect and see your point. They aren't cosigning that clown. Not the good posters anyway.
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Originally posted by richardt View PostCalling out a varied group in one statement can be taken in numerous ways, calling out a single group in isolation in another statement can only be taken in one way. The bottom line is everyone knows how Broner has targeted Mexicans with derogatory statements and people know how he feels about them and while I don't really agree with suspending him, he needs to be held accountable and publically right now he is being held accountable.
If showtime suspended him for cursing on the air then that would be holding him accountable.
we can agree to disagree. Sadly, broner will likely provide more thread material in his next fight.
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