Cuauhtemoc1520's take on this weekend

[Suckmedry]

Yeah, definitely rough and rugged, but I don't know where the line is drawn on being dirty. I just know he'll throw the low blows, hip shots in the clinch, attempted elbow on khan, etc.

I think the plan was definitely to rough Floyd up, I'm just not sure where that line is/was drawn. Get rough with Floyd, make him uncomfortable. I just wouldn't be shocked if it was part of the plan.





Yeah that's a good point. Besides the excessive clinching, his inside fight game ******, often times just standing in the pocket taking shots when the ref wouldn't let him hold. I wonder how much of that was him just being cautious, not wanting to get in an exchange and thus not knowing what to do.

In any case, he has a lot more to work on. He need atleast 1 more fight to iron out the kinks before mayweather is even a consideration IMO.

You people expecting khan to have an inside game baffle me. He's a boxer, a long, fast boxer with a pretty bad chin at the top level. He doesn't want to be anywhere near the fcking inside, so if he's caught in there he spoils and gets out. That's solid tactics khans been lacking his whole career. It's like some guys in here just wanna see fighters get embarrassed and ko'd by fighting really ******ly

[~AK49~]

You people expecting khan to have an inside game baffle me. He's a boxer, a long, fast boxer with a pretty bad chin at the top level. He doesn't want to be anywhere near the fcking inside, so if he's caught in there he spoils and gets out. That's solid tactics khans been lacking his whole career. It's like some guys in here just wanna see fighters get embarrassed and ko'd by fighting really ******ly

Honestly, your post is baffling. You want to know what's ******? Not having an inside fight game, and just standing there ******ly taking shots when you're not allowed to hold. Cuz that's what he did when he wasn't allowed to hold, just stood there like a deer in headlights.

Didn't say I expect him to have one, I just called a spade a spade and said he doesn't have one, and needs to work on that. Then you come along and say he doesn't need to work on it? Wtf....

Edit: and by work on it, I mean at the least work on getting out of the pocket safely....immediately.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I thought Khan looked more tentative against Diaz last year tbh. He seemed more fluid in his boxing this time. He looked good overall but he's still extremely uncomfortable when an opponent is persistently walking him down. He has to hold or run his ass off. Sometimes that's enough, sometimes it won't be.

Well to be fair, Diaz is a better boxer than Collazo IMO. I thought Diaz really gave Khan trouble and even knocked him down because of his patience. Collazo just abandoned the game plan early.

biased mexican nonsense.
DNR is short for did not read, squat.


in all seriousness, crap breakdown. some of the worst stuff you're ever going to read.


only kidding. i want to know what you think of glove-gate. i haven't had my hand in an everlast glove in 10 years. i used everlast when i was growing up. i wear grant, and they're f#cking pillows. they [grant] don't make a puncher's glove. they just don't. the leather is hard, and foam is piled up over the knuckles.


have you ever had your hand in the MX professional model from everlast? and how about the "protec," if i got the name right?

the MX looks like a genuine puncher's glove. soft leather, horsehair over the knuckles.

the protec is the pillow glove that baby hands andre ward uses, right? those things look like they belong in amateur fights. ward's glove in a 10 oz is as big as his flipping head.

I have worked many amateur and pro fights. When I was fighting the commission approved the gloves before the fight or the day before.

I was surprised that Floyd got away with the whole rejection of the gloves. IMO it was either a stunt to bother Maidana, or it was poor management on the part of FLoyd's team. When you write the contract up, you agree to ring size, gloves, purse, venue etc...You don't do it hours before the fight.

I have used the MX gloves in training, and they are like the Everlast version of Reyes, a little softer IMO. Cotto uses them, Donaire and Rios. I don't see why FLoyd all of a sudden didn't want them used. Again, I thought it was a ruse or just poor management on his part. THese things are handled way before the fight.

I get you but I was still overall highly impressed by how khan boxed on the weekend. The holding was a bit annoying but hey it's the pros and when you have that chin you gotta take steps to protect it. But his movement and offence was exceptional to me.

I was as well, fast, accurate but again, the excessive holding turns me off because it severely limits the aggressor/brawler in the fight.

[BetterCallSaul]

As a Khan fan who's had to listen to boxing fans deride his chin, punch resistance, and losses over the years, I'm quite happy to see him hold and fight more tactically. But it wasn't as if Khan abandoned his aggressive style, he simply honed it in, and fought with more control. Khan still threw plenty of power shots and combinations and the fight was very enjoyable. I'd like to see more of the same. Great performance.

[Marleta]

Mayweather vs Maidana

Man what a fight, I was completely wrong in how competitive it was going to be. Props to Maidana for taking the fight to Floyd and it's amazing how styles truly make fights. I personally think Canelo beats Maidana but Maidana's aggressive style showed up better vs Floyd.

I had it a draw but I will need to see it again and really sit down and score it more precisely. Maidana was just more aggressive, didn't stop coming forward and landed the harder, better shots. Have to give Mayweather his credit though, he really countered well later in the fight, but I also was disappointed with Tony Weeks.

If you allow Floyd to hold that much, and separate them immediately when he does hold, you take a huge part of Maidana's game away from him. Mayweather was holding inside, and if one arm is free, the ref needs to let them work.

Maidana also landed some low blows, I don't know if the were intentional, but he seemed frustrated from the holding. I honestly thought Maidana could have gotten the decision in the end, but I'm not mad with the outcome. It was a razor close fight, and I also have to say Robert Garcia and Alex Ariza have done a fantastic job with Maidana.

He came in incredible shape, and that pace is hard to keep for 12 rounds and he almost pulled off the huge upset. Of course there will be a rematch and I also think that Floyd looked a little older in this fight.

Kind of the way we saw Pac look vs Bradely the first time. Even though he won almost every round, it seemed that explosion wasn't there. I think Floyd's age caught up to him just a little bit, not saying he's anywhere near done but he is 37.

In the end it was a great night for boxing and my respect goes to Floyd. I really thought he had to earn his purse on this one, and it could have gone either way. I don't see Floyd fulfilling his contract of 6 fights. I truly believe the most important thing to him is keeping his "0" and fighting Maidana, Pac or even GGG really endangers that.

Great night of boxing though in the end.

What exactly does it matter how Canelo matches up against Maidana? Maidana is a small guy, a 140 pounder who barely can fight at welterweight while Canelo is a 154 pounder.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

What exactly does it matter how Canelo matches up against Maidana? Maidana is a small guy, a 140 pounder who barely can fight at welterweight while Canelo is a 154 pounder.

Because I just wanted to point out how styles truly make fights. How people after the fight were trying to discredit Canelo's performance vs Maidana's performance.

The reason we can't use triangle theories, and we never know what we are going to get when we get an awkward match up like this one.

There are people on youtube saying that Canelo is trash because of Maidana's performance, those people don't understand boxing.

[bojangles1987]

Because I just wanted to point out how styles truly make fights. How people after the fight were trying to discredit Canelo's performance vs Maidana's performance.

The reason we can't use triangle theories, and we never know what we are going to get when we get an awkward match up like this one.

There are people on youtube saying that Canelo is trash because of Maidana's performance, those people don't understand boxing.

Watching Mayweather/Maidana, I couldn't help but wish Alvarez had fought with that kind of "**** you" attitude. Go at him, use those fast hands and the weight advantage.

Probably wouldn't have mattered, that isn't his game. Still wish he had gone into the Mayweather fight with that mindset.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Watching Mayweather/Maidana, I couldn't help but wish Alvarez had fought with that kind of "**** you" attitude. Go at him, use those fast hands and the weight advantage.

Probably wouldn't have mattered, that isn't his game. Still wish he had gone into the Mayweather fight with that mindset.

I think Canelo is a warrior, he's just much more skilled than Maidana. Floyd after the fight said Canelo and Cotto hit harder than Maidana and I believe him.

I just think style wise, we were going to see Floyd dominate Canelo because they are both counter punchers.

[LacedUp]

Watching Mayweather/Maidana, I couldn't help but wish Alvarez had fought with that kind of "**** you" attitude. Go at him, use those fast hands and the weight advantage.

Probably wouldn't have mattered, that isn't his game. Still wish he had gone into the Mayweather fight with that mindset.

yeah but then Canelo would be doing something he's not used to.

A lot of posters on here were making Canelo out to be a brawler before he fought Floyd, when in fact he's a boxer-puncher with really solid skills.

Not the best way to fight Floyd.

One thing that showed us how affected Canelo was by the 152 pound catch-weight was his fight against Angulo. He simply looked so much stronger in that fight from the beginning.

Different class of opposition altogether, but he looked a lot stronger.

[TintaBoricua]

Because I just wanted to point out how styles truly make fights. How people after the fight were trying to discredit Canelo's performance vs Maidana's performance.

The reason we can't use triangle theories, and we never know what we are going to get when we get an awkward match up like this one.

There are people on youtube saying that Canelo is trash because of Maidana's performance, those people don't understand boxing.

I think Canelo is a warrior, he's just much more skilled than Maidana. Floyd after the fight said Canelo and Cotto hit harder than Maidana and I believe him.

I just think style wise, we were going to see Floyd dominate Canelo because they are both counter punchers.

Bingo. Styles make fights. People who don't follow boxing simply think that because Maidana looked better versus Floyd, that he automatically is better than Floyd's previous opponents. It doesn't work like that.

It's a coincidence you say that about styles because yesterday I was thinking--and call me crazy--that a 2012 or even a 2013 version of Shane Mosley would've had more success against Maidana last night. It's the styles.

I'm sure A LOT of people (myself included) oversimplified the match-up and thought that Maidana would not be as successful as he was against Broner. We thought that Floyd would have something in his bag of tricks to nullify Maidana's bull rush offense, or deter him in some way. Maidana took a lot of crisp head-snapping punches but he still kept barging in without regard to what a clean punch was. He was rough housing Floyd and throwing punches everywhere; had he been a cartoon character he would've turned into an octopus right then and there. It is not a knock on him, I thought he looked very good. There were a few moments where I thought he was dirty (mainly the obvious low blow and the knee he attempted), but otherwise he smothered Floyd.

I would love to watch the fight again but I haven't been able to. I caught the fight in a movie theater and had it 7-5 Floyd at the end of the night, but I can't rule out a draw. That was Floyd's closest call in years.

On an added note, did anybody here think we were on the verge of witnessing a Floyd loss at any point? I was on the edge of my seat at the start where Maidana was teeing off, but calmed down once Floyd looked better in the second. Then when Maidana started looking good again and Floyd was cut for the first time in his career, I could've sworn Floyd was going to fall apart. The way he kept pawing at his eye over and over again made me think his focus was going to dissolve and Maidana was going to take over for the rest of the fight.