At last! Arum backs down...

[JoartCC]

You failed at being funny.

Looking at EM's face after PAC destroyed him isn't also funny.

Clit gloves is funny. Let me remind you.

[flipside]

eric lost manny won bottom line it was tko but if the ref didnt stop it it was heaing that way

[ReneV]

Excuses without validation is a sign of a loser.

EM being affected by his conditioning is a lame argument with weak basis.

If EM is being affected by his conditioning, then why the hell did he win the early rounds in slick fashion? That's not the look of a fighter who's not in condition.

Also why is EM taking months to recover if the simple issue is conditioning?

The answer is, PAC DESTROYED him and LITERALLY. Taking months to recover from broken ribs, eye sockets, cheek bones, and nose isn't a matter of conditioning. It's a matter of how bad you got ur ass handed to you. ANd EM got his real bad.

But the bottomline is, it's a warning to those naysayers that in the future, they should try to analyze the facts more. SO that results will then be on their favor.

It's an on-going argument and whoever gets it wrong, gets their arguments dumped hard on their faces.

"Excuses without validation is a sign of a loser?" Take your head out of Manny's ass and remember it was Manny that had a bunch of excuses first of why he had lost to EM the first time(the promoter,gloves,lack of consentration,took EM lightly)So the loser that you must be talking about is your wonderboy Manny. Now if your referring to me trying to make excuses as to why EM lost and say "excuses without validation" Well the reason why EM lost IS valid and not so much as excuses like Manny was using. The obvious reason is EM got tired like I said but to his own fault. Yes the body shots took an effect later in the rounds but Manny was not doing anything different from the first fight in reference to body shots. And I never said EM is taking months to recover because of his conditioning.That doesn't even make sense. Get your facts straight. Obviously any fighter has to take a couple of months of to recover from a fight like that when he losses, But at least he's not taking years off like some other fighters do. and exaggerating and adding more to the injuries by you like "broken ribs,eye sockets" is ****** and shows that you feel that you need to say that BS to try to make Manny seem like he's super human but hey go on ahead and what ever makes you feel better but it just proves my point even more.

[SnoopySmurf]

You failed at being funny.

Perhaps because you think Clitoris is an Italian sports car?

[JoartCC]

"Excuses without validation is a sign of a loser?" Take your head out of Manny's ass and remember it was Manny that had a bunch of excuses first of why he had lost to EM the first time(the promoter,gloves,lack of consentration,took EM lightly)So the loser that you must be talking about is your wonderboy Manny. Now if your referring to me trying to make excuses as to why EM lost and say "excuses without validation" Well the reason why EM lost IS valid and not so much as excuses like Manny was using. The obvious reason is EM got tired like I said but to his own fault. Yes the body shots took an effect later in the rounds but Manny was not doing anything different from the first fight in reference to body shots. And I never said EM is taking months to recover because of his conditioning.That doesn't even make sense. Get your facts straight. Obviously any fighter has to take a couple of months of to recover from a fight like that when he losses, But at least he's not taking years off like some other fighters do. and exaggerating and adding more to the injuries by you like "broken ribs,eye sockets" is ****** and shows that you feel that you need to say that BS to try to make Manny seem like he's super human but hey go on ahead and what ever makes you feel better but it just proves my point even more.

What are the results eh?

EM is taking months to recover.

That's just about all the info you'll ever need.

[Manny_P]

You pac-fans are over doing it with Manny's victory over EM. Yes he beat EM bt tko, but remember it wasn't by KO even with "reyes" gloves. Your use of the word "destroyed" is really over exaggerating. Everyone who saw the fight knows that EM was beating Manny silly and easily AGAIN the first five rounds. And it seemed that Manny's fans were getting prepared for another disappointing lost again. Even HBO commentators were saying "it's the same thing all over again." But it all came down to EM ran out of gas and that's to EM fault for his lack of serious training and being over confident to even changing trainers right before this second chance that he gave Manny. Even EM dad critizied EM traing before the fight. EM ran out of gas and Manny capitalized on that and in the process EM got his ass beat: being so tired to fight back. But those knock downs were simply tiredness on EM behalf and not because of a hit on the chin that put EM on the ground to say that Manny's power was the reason that Eric went down. And I don't take away nothing from Manny he fought a smart fight and he came well prepared, But EM didn't. but that happens with fighters that come over confident especially if he already beat him once. But to say "It's lame for EM camp to demand a rematch at 132?" It's not lame. It wasn't lame for EM to give Manny a second chance to redeem himself was it?EM didn't have to give Manny a rematch he could've run with his win over Manny and say "I don't have to fight Manny again,I already beat him and even gave him a final chance to knock me out turning southpaw in the twelve round but he couldn't do it, I'm satisfied with my win and I need to move on and go go have a rematch with Raheem." But instead he gave Manny a second chance not needing to. Was that lame? Manny is quoted as responding to the offer at 132 as saying "Why should I give EM an advantage at 132 when I already beat him? My answer: The same way EM gave Manny an advantage with a rematch at 130 when EM knowingly was already having trouble making weight at 130 even after EM had already beaten him. EM could have demanded that if Manny wanted the rematch it's was going to have to be at 135. But just to please his fans he did it at 130. Thta's a true champion. Manny knows what EM is capable of when he's well prepared and that's why he won't return the favor. there just 1 on 1. But it's nothing EM has never been at before. It's no big deal he will be back again. You know how I know this? Because Eric and his camp was not crying like sissy's when Manny beat him,Like Manny's corner was when EM beat him. Manny didn't bring nothing new to the table EM was still handling him well. It was just he ran out of gas. You try getting in the ring not conditionally prepared and see if you won't get your brains beaten out, That can happen to any boxer. I know you pac-fans want to feel that you have a superman in your hands and that with those "reyes" gloves he has super human strength But remember when your one wonderboy fought Marquez wich you also say that he "destroyed". Yes, He knocked down Marquez three times, But he couldn't finish Marquez off even with the "reyes" gloves. As a matter of fact he himself almost got knocked out himself. But he didn't destroy Marquez, Marquez even managed to even the fight and tie it with Manny using "reyes" gloves and all.

Morales' dad?!

[psychopath]

"Excuses without validation is a sign of a loser?" Take your head out of Manny's ass and remember it was Manny that had a bunch of excuses first of why he had lost to EM the first time(the promoter,gloves,lack of consentration,took EM lightly)So the loser that you must be talking about is your wonderboy Manny. Now if your referring to me trying to make excuses as to why EM lost and say "excuses without validation" Well the reason why EM lost IS valid and not so much as excuses like Manny was using. The obvious reason is EM got tired like I said but to his own fault. Yes the body shots took an effect later in the rounds but Manny was not doing anything different from the first fight in reference to body shots. And I never said EM is taking months to recover because of his conditioning.That doesn't even make sense. Get your facts straight. Obviously any fighter has to take a couple of months of to recover from a fight like that when he losses, But at least he's not taking years off like some other fighters do. and exaggerating and adding more to the injuries by you like "broken ribs,eye sockets" is ****** and shows that you feel that you need to say that BS to try to make Manny seem like he's super human but hey go on ahead and what ever makes you feel better but it just proves my point even more.

Remember it was Manny that had a bunch of excuses? Didn't the guy already proved that those were not excuses?

And what valid Eric excuses are you talking about? It came out right from Eric's mouth that nobody can hear any excuses from him. It's your excuse not his, DUMB ****!

[No-mas-tias]

I don't think anyone of them is clearly superior to the other, it will be a great 3rd fight if it does happen.

[ReneV]

Remember it was Manny that had a bunch of excuses? Didn't the guy already proved that those were not excuses?

And what valid Eric excuses are you talking about? It came out right from Eric's mouth that nobody can hear any excuses from him. It's your excuse not his, DUMB ****!

I never said that he had valid excuses you ****** piece of ****. learn how to read. And no Manny didn't prove anything except to you over exaggerating dumb ****heads that probably have never ever put on gloves in your sorry life.

[psychopath]

I never said that he had valid excuses you ****** piece of ****. learn how to read. And no Manny didn't prove anything except to you over exaggerating dumb ****heads that probably have never ever put on gloves in your sorry life.

." But it all came down to EM ran out of gas and that's to EM fault for his lack of serious training and being over confident to even changing trainers right before this second chance that he gave Manny.

Isn't that your excuse **** HEAD?

Yeah Pacman didn't prove anything by humilating BARRERA, Pacman didn't prove anyhting by giving Morales his first T.K.O. loss. That's nothing, coming from a an IDIOT HATER like you.

You're a HOPELESS case *******.