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  • #51
    Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
    Ok maybe evidence was the wrong word maybe inuendo would work better because there hasn't been a smoking gun like a failed test but ......


    - Roach admiring he didn't know what Ariza put in his shakes
    - Working with Fortune & Ariza
    - previous Teddy Atlas Comments
    - Refusing to take the test in Floyd fight when purse was 50/50
    -Never tested untill after KO from a suspected Ped user.
    - Increase of 40 % of his body mass from when he started, with out losing speed
    Unheard of no other previous boxer has ever done and will likely ever do again

    That's just from the top of my head I'm sure if I though about it I could come up with more.

    lol this one had me smiling. I'd love to see you present a case in a court of law.

    "Well, sir, I have ZERO evidence but I can hit you with lots of innuendo."

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    • #52
      The fact of the matter is when it comes to PED su****ion with Pacquiao it was his team who dropped the ball here.

      They didn't want to get bullied by Mayweather in the negotiating table, and in their ill attempt to come out on top in the negotiation tables they failed to realize how bad asking for cut off dates for testing looked.
      It immediately made people suspect him and even though he has never failed a test, some people will always suspect him.

      It's sad really.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Cgarcia View Post
        PED usage would be the last topic I would bring up if I'm associated with a guy with 3 failed tests. Hehe...
        Floyd's three failed tests is general knowledge. Google has spread it like wildfire.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by jrrod02 View Post
          The fact of the matter is when it comes to PED su****ion with Pacquiao it was his team who dropped the ball here.

          They didn't want to get bullied by Mayweather in the negotiating table, and in their ill attempt to come out on top in the negotiation tables they failed to realize how bad asking for cut off dates for testing looked.
          It immediately made people suspect him and even though he has never failed a test, some people will always suspect him.

          It's sad really.
          still ... at least he doesn't have 3 failed tests. I think most people would find that far more su****ious lol

          I think the flomos should probably move on to something else tbh. Maybe slagging off Arum or something ... much better material there

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          • #55
            Anything Hopkins says is because he has his promoter hat on and should not be taken seriously.

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            • #56
              Who cares.........

              This is how you KNOW when someone is a hater. So, Manny goes on to become the ONLY 8 division Champion in the history of the sport, and he has to be on something? How come he can't be a rare and special fighter? Hopkin's calls himself "special" after every fight it seems. What's so special about what he is doing? He's cherry-picking just like Floyd does. As soon as he fights a REAL Lightheavy or live body, he is going to his grave. Everyone continues to hate on Manny, and what does Manny do? Not give a ****! He keeps smiling, being humble, showing class. When it's time to train, he trains. When it's time to relax and take his mind off of boxing, that's what he does. It is this mentality that will allow him to perform at the elite level, at least one more fight. Cotto also exhibits the same sort of temperament.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
                This is how you KNOW when someone is a hater. So, Manny goes on to become the ONLY 8 division Champion in the history of the sport, and he has to be on something? How come he can't be a rare and special fighter? Hopkin's calls himself "special" after every fight it seems. What's so special about what he is doing? He's cherry-picking just like Floyd does. As soon as he fights a REAL Lightheavy or live body, he is going to his grave. Everyone continues to hate on Manny, and what does Manny do? Not give a ****! He keeps smiling, being humble, showing class. When it's time to train, he trains. When it's time to relax and take his mind off of boxing, that's what he does. It is this mentality that will allow him to perform at the elite level, at least one more fight. Cotto also exhibits the same sort of temperament.
                He is a special fighter. And I suspect when history looks back on his career, people will have more of an argument to claim he is one of the best ever.

                But as I said in my previous post, there is going to be a certain number of people who will always claim he was a PED user, because his PR team simply dropped the ball on that negotiations.
                They attempted not to allow Mayweather to bully them, and in turn, ended up looking bad. OH well. Can't please everyone, so one moves on.

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                • #58
                  That's not why........

                  Manny and his team handled themselves like they were supposed to, during those times. Remember who started this claim, right? It was Floyd Mayweather because the fans demanded that fight. Before that, everything was fine. Floyd tarnished Manny's image and accomplishments a bit with the allegations BUT Manny has tremendous resolve and it's showing even more right now. Floyd can't tell Manny what to do. How do you bully a person like Manny? You cannot. Manny handled it like a professional and sued Floyd's ass and won millions! Floyd, like Roidquez, hates Manny's guts for no reason. Who would even want to hate on a guy like Manny? Why? Because he is a global icon and they are not? Both of those guys are whiners and are immature. Manny NEVER says anything BAD about ANYONE. PERIOD. Guess what though? He is about to get the last laugh, I think. When he drops Arum. When BHOP gets Ko'ed. When Floyd gets scared of losing like he hinted yesterday at the press conference; and retires after the fight tomorrow. Manny's next fight will be BIG and he will have the last laugh. Why? Because Karma is a *****! It's important for everyone to be humble and treat others fairly. If you don't, Karma WILL find you.
                  Last edited by GOD-FR33; 05-02-2014, 11:26 AM. Reason: Haters

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
                    Ok maybe evidence was the wrong word maybe inuendo would work better because there hasn't been a smoking gun like a failed test but ......


                    - Roach admiring he didn't know what Ariza put in his shakes
                    - Working with Fortune & Ariza
                    - previous Teddy Atlas Comments
                    - Refusing to take the test in Floyd fight when purse was 50/50
                    -Never tested untill after KO from a suspected Ped user.
                    - Increase of 40 % of his body mass from when he started, with out losing speed
                    Unheard of no other previous boxer has ever done and will likely ever do again

                    That's just from the top of my head I'm sure if I though about it I could come up with more.


                    There are no drinkable steroids, Mayweather and Pacquiao both started at 106 pounds at 16 yet people refuse to mention this for some reason

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Ro2535 View Post
                      In terms of body mass, there is someone who has done something similar..Floyd.
                      At 16 Floyd was fighting at 106 pounds, at 16 Pac was also fighting at 106 pounds. The difference was FLoyd was fighting as an amateur and Pac was fighting as a pro so he could eat. That's why Pac was able to go up so many division. He was a poor malnourished 16 year old kid fighting proffesionally and sleeping on his gym floor. Once he got notice and money, his training and nutrition improved drastically. Floyd is also much more muscular than he used to be so they are effectively in the same boat with weight/muscle imrovement.
                      Thank you!! People forget to mention this for some reason.

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