Which heavyweight challenger was worse?

[joe strong]

since the usual suspects come to the defence of their hero & completely deviate away from the thread topic I wll post something here about audley Harrison. at the time he fought haye in nov 2010 he had won prizefighter & won the European title. he was ranked by both the WBA(#13) & WBC(#16). he vacated the European belt june 8th After winning it in april to sign his fight with haye. it was a domestic clash between a world champion & the European champion. I believe this has happened many times. not to mention there was PPV interest in England for this domestic clash. it's not any worse then what wach, pianeta or leapai did. still a sham of a fight but it is what it is. the thread title has nothing to do with audley Harrison. what is next we gonna talk about Floyd here too? smh...

[Hitman932]

He has 21 losses now.

It's good to see that you can still laugh at yourself, lord knows everyone else does.

*Note: If I were as big a flaming homsexual as you this is where I would insert one of those lol emoticons to really drive my point home.

[Hitman932]

since the usual suspects come to the defence of their hero & completely deviate away from the thread topic I wll post something here about audley Harrison. at the time he fought haye in nov 2010 he had won prizefighter & won the European title. he was ranked by both the WBA(#13) & WBC(#16). he vacated the European belt june 8th After winning it in april to sign his fight with haye. it was a domestic clash between a world champion & the European champion. I believe this has happened many times. not to mention there was PPV interest in England for this domestic clash. it's not any worse then what wach, pianeta or leapai did. still a sham of a fight but it is what it is. the thread title has nothing to do with audley Harrison. what is next we gonna talk about Floyd here too? smh...

The only usual suspect is the idiot TS who everyone knows hates the Klitschkos and couldn't give an unbiased evaluation of them if his life depended on it.

Since I know you know your HW history why don't you be honest about Audley's "European Championship". The reality was that it was a vacant title and he fought Sprott (who wasn't even a Top-1o Euro HW) for the belt. He also never made a single defense of the title.

Also -let's be honest how that rematch went. Sprott beat Harrison's ass and outboxed him and bullied him for 11.5 rounds and got so confident going for the KO he got himself knocked out. If anything that "win" made Audley look as bad as any other fight he ever had because he got pushed around by a midget all night.

So yeah. Harrison got lucky with a last second knockout over a journeyman fighter to win a vacant trinket that was so meaningless the WBA didn't even put him in the Top-15 afterwards. The WBA had to be paid off by Team Haye to rank him so the title fight could happen.

[LacedUp]

It's good to see that you can still laugh at yourself, lord knows everyone else does.

*Note: If I were as big a flaming homsexual as you this is where I would insert one of those lol emoticons to really drive my point home.

Surely even a challenged individual like yourself can see the difference between losing to a guy who has 10 losses and a guy who finishes up with 21 losses.

A **** joke you really must be desperate.

[LacedUp]

since the usual suspects come to the defence of their hero & completely deviate away from the thread topic I wll post something here about audley Harrison. at the time he fought haye in nov 2010 he had won prizefighter & won the European title. he was ranked by both the WBA(#13) & WBC(#16). he vacated the European belt june 8th After winning it in april to sign his fight with haye. it was a domestic clash between a world champion & the European champion. I believe this has happened many times. not to mention there was PPV interest in England for this domestic clash. it's not any worse then what wach, pianeta or leapai did. still a sham of a fight but it is what it is. the thread title has nothing to do with audley Harrison. what is next we gonna talk about Floyd here too? smh...

No.

The usual suspects are incapable of discussing the Klitschkos opposition without brining up a guy who held a belt for a period of less than two years.

[yoz]

No.

The usual suspects are incapable of discussing the Klitschkos opposition without brining up a guy who held a belt for a period of less than two years.

If we're going to scrutinise Wlad's level of opposition, surely it makes sense to analyse his peers, too - Vitali and Haye.

[joe strong]

The only usual suspect is the idiot TS who everyone knows hates the Klitschkos and couldn't give an unbiased evaluation of them if his life depended on it.

Since I know you know your HW history why don't you be honest about Audley's "European Championship". The reality was that it was a vacant title and he fought Sprott (who wasn't even a Top-1o Euro HW) for the belt. He also never made a single defense of the title.

Also -let's be honest how that rematch went. Sprott beat Harrison's ass and outboxed him and bullied him for 11.5 rounds and got so confident going for the KO he got himself knocked out. If anything that "win" made Audley look as bad as any other fight he ever had because he got pushed around by a midget all night.

So yeah. Harrison got lucky with a last second knockout over a journeyman fighter to win a vacant trinket that was so meaningless the WBA didn't even put him in the Top-15 afterwards. The WBA had to be paid off by Team Haye to rank him so the title fight could happen.

go look at their rankings at june 2010 when he vacated the European title he was WBA #13 & I posted earlier #16 WBC. it's doesn't matter if he was losing 11.5 rounds. he scored a KO to win. where is this proof of a pay off? I got my stats from the WBA site...he was #13 when he vacated...so I don't know what you are talking about this payoff & no WBA ranking. it's right there on their website...he never made a defence because he was injured in the sprott fight & he signed to fight haye in june. he had to vacate to get his title shot as haye wasn't his mandatory for the European belt. so which way do you think he would go? a euopean title defence or a shot at a 7 digit paycheck & a world title? i'm sure the troops will have their haye thread up soon enough...hahaha...

[LacedUp]

If we're going to scrutinise Wlad's level of opposition, surely it makes sense to analyse his peers, too - Vitali and Haye.

Only Vitali's is comparable?

David Haye is not Wlad's peer. He's a career cruiserweight who's had what, 5 or so fights at heavyweight? That really can't and shouldn't be compared to a guy who's had 60 or so fights.

And besides, Wlad is the champ. Haye is just a guy who held a belt for a couple of fights. So the standards which the two are measured by, is completely different.

That being said, people here said Haye cherrypicked Tyson fury, but they are making excused for Wlad fighting the likes of Leapai and Pianeta? How exactly does that work?

Isn't Wlad as the champ required to face the best opposition, or is that just the romantic in me?

[yoz]

Only Vitali's is comparable?

David Haye is not Wlad's peer. He's a career cruiserweight who's had what, 5 or so fights at heavyweight? That really can't and shouldn't be compared to a guy who's had 60 or so fights.

And besides, Wlad is the champ. Haye is just a guy who held a belt for a couple of fights. So the standards which the two are measured by, is completely different.

That being said, people here said Haye cherrypicked Tyson fury, but they are making excused for Wlad fighting the likes of Leapai and Pianeta? How exactly does that work?

Isn't Wlad as the champ required to face the best opposition, or is that just the romantic in me?

Well, Haye was 'world heavyweight champion'...

Leapai wasn't a cherry pick; you know it, right?

[LacedUp]

Well, Haye was 'world heavyweight champion'...

Leapai wasn't a cherry pick; you know it, right?

I know he was mandatory for the WBO belt. Still no excuse.

But surely you can see the double standards. If Haye fights Fury, it's a crap fight. But it's OK for Wlad to fight the level he's been fighting as voluntaries mostly?

Come on