Comments Thread For: Don King Livid With Cancelation of Jones-Lebedev Clash

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The amount of negative vibe I get off certain posters in regarding Caucasian fighters is so disgusting.

I wonder what ethnicity these posters are and what their real reasons are to hate the rise of boxers from other races?

And before any ******ed poster starts i'm not white.

[New England]

i'd be pissed, too. time in your 80's is a finite quantity.

[Hitman932]

I'm not saying Jones is innocent but a lot of people are quick to determine his guilt in spite of a bunch of su****ious circumstances. It's at least worth taking a look at the facts before making up your mind.

Things to consider:

1) The results of the 1st positive test took over 11 weeks to officially be announced. 11 weeks. This is for the same substance that this time he was allegedly tested for on Wednesday and found positive for on Friday this time around.

So the original testing took nearly 80 days for the same results we got in 3 days the 2nd time around. Can someone explain that please?

2) If the WBA had trusted the integrity of the 1st positive and the Russian lab the win would have been overturned and changed to an NC and Jones wouldn't have been fighting for the title.

The fact that the result stands to this day and Jones was to return to fight for the title is as good as an admission from the WBA that the testing the 1st time around was highly questionable.

3) As has been stated there is a clear conflict of interest with Ryabinsky holding one of the highest administrative positions in Russian boxing while also serving as a Promoter. He has way too much control over **** he should have no involvement in.

4) The lab that delivered the 1st questionable result in the same lab that Wladimir Klitschko outright refused to allow control of testing for his fight with Alexander Povetkin because of the reputation for half baked cheating by the Russians.

5) People are asking what did Ryabinsky have to gain by cancelling? What did Jones have to gain by cheating again? Clearly he was capable of getting to the weight based on his physique and ultimately he is the one who trained and flew halfway around the world for nothing.

6) How can the Russians test Jones without the WBA present - an unauthorized test by any definition - considering the circumstances surrounding the 1st test? Everyone should have been hyper vigilant and observing the strict letter of the law in every aspect of testing. Instead the Russians rushed in to deliver a test that ultimately had no integrity.

7) How can a fighter be drug tested and there not be a B-sample? This is drug testing 101 and any testing lab that doesn't collect a B-sample probably shouldn't even be in business. This is highly su****ious.

The Russians basically came in, tested Jones, found him dirty - then said "well there is no way for you to independently test the results.... sorry!"

This is blatantly dishonest and su****ious.

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Don King's boy Stiverne is about to get crushed by Arreola.

Sad days ahead for the old man.

Seriously bro...? Is that your honest assessment of what you think is going to happen? Arreola will get beat again and will get beat easily because he simply has very little boxing "skill". He's big yes, strong yes, has a chin yes, but can he box well, no. Stiverne is MUCH better a boxer and has a more vast skill set and if you really watch boxing you should know that. He is highly overrated and has been for YEARS. Whether you want to admit it or not, he is a glorified gatekeeper. How many times do I have to hear this guy talk of being the first Mexican heavyweight champion before he actually becomes it? He's been singing this song for almost a decade now bro...

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Ah yes, blame the other guy for your fighter getting caught cheating a second time. It's just too easy making the Russians out to be a villain but when you're Don King you'd think people would know better.

Ur the type of naive fool that believes ANYTHING you hear in the news. Learn how to read between the lines and stop being such a guppy. Half of the evidence point towards foul play, ant NOT from team King. Just because he has a bad history it does not mean he is incapable of doing right and it seems that they are playing off his rep as its easy to cry foul play and have the ignorant follow you when dealing with Don King.

[Foreign Soil]

It never ceases to amaze me how many people still blindly follow King. It's not surprising he was able to have his way with so many fighters. He just has some charisma to turn people into fools.

[JJRod]

I'm glad that the question was asked. Why would Ryabinsky cancel the fight when he himself spent his own money promoting it and lost money by canceling it? He had to have had a good reason to do so.

Add to that Jones has a history of drug cheating, and King has a history of being shady and you get a pretty good sense of who is at fault here.

[Foreign Soil]

I'm not saying Jones is innocent but a lot of people are quick to determine his guilt in spite of a bunch of su****ious circumstances. It's at least worth taking a look at the facts before making up your mind.

Things to consider:

1) The results of the 1st positive test took over 11 weeks to officially be announced. 11 weeks. This is for the same substance that this time he was allegedly tested for on Wednesday and found positive for on Friday this time around.

So the original testing took nearly 80 days for the same results we got in 3 days the 2nd time around. Can someone explain that please?

2) If the WBA had trusted the integrity of the 1st positive and the Russian lab the win would have been overturned and changed to an NC and Jones wouldn't have been fighting for the title.

The fact that the result stands to this day and Jones was to return to fight for the title is as good as an admission from the WBA that the testing the 1st time around was highly questionable.

3) As has been stated there is a clear conflict of interest with Ryabinsky holding one of the highest administrative positions in Russian boxing while also serving as a Promoter. He has way too much control over **** he should have no involvement in.

4) The lab that delivered the 1st questionable result in the same lab that Wladimir Klitschko outright refused to allow control of testing for his fight with Alexander Povetkin because of the reputation for half baked cheating by the Russians.

5) People are asking what did Ryabinsky have to gain by cancelling? What did Jones have to gain by cheating again? Clearly he was capable of getting to the weight based on his physique and ultimately he is the one who trained and flew halfway around the world for nothing.

6) How can the Russians test Jones without the WBA present - an unauthorized test by any definition - considering the circumstances surrounding the 1st test? Everyone should have been hyper vigilant and observing the strict letter of the law in every aspect of testing. Instead the Russians rushed in to deliver a test that ultimately had no integrity.

7) How can a fighter be drug tested and there not be a B-sample? This is drug testing 101 and any testing lab that doesn't collect a B-sample probably shouldn't even be in business. This is highly su****ious.

The Russians basically came in, tested Jones, found him dirty - then said "well there is no way for you to independently test the results.... sorry!"

This is blatantly dishonest and su****ious.

Russians didn't test him - it was a lab in Switzerland. There goes half your argument.

[JJRod]

Ur the type of naive fool that believes ANYTHING you hear in the news. Learn how to read between the lines and stop being such a guppy. Half of the evidence point towards foul play, ant NOT from team King. Just because he has a bad history it does not mean he is incapable of doing right and it seems that they are playing off his rep as its easy to cry foul play and have the ignorant follow you when dealing with Don King.

Why would they cancel the fight in Russia, and risk losing all of the money they poured into promoting the fight if they did not have a legit reason? It doesn't make sense.

And yes, unfortunately in boxing, as in life we judge people's actions based on their reputations. Jones has a reputation of being a drug cheat, and King has a reputation of being a swindler.

What's amazing is that guppy's like you fall for it everytime.

[Hougigo]

I'm not saying Jones is innocent but a lot of people are quick to determine his guilt in spite of a bunch of su****ious circumstances. It's at least worth taking a look at the facts before making up your mind.

Things to consider:

1) The results of the 1st positive test took over 11 weeks to officially be announced. 11 weeks. This is for the same substance that this time he was allegedly tested for on Wednesday and found positive for on Friday this time around.

So the original testing took nearly 80 days for the same results we got in 3 days the 2nd time around. Can someone explain that please?

2) If the WBA had trusted the integrity of the 1st positive and the Russian lab the win would have been overturned and changed to an NC and Jones wouldn't have been fighting for the title.

The fact that the result stands to this day and Jones was to return to fight for the title is as good as an admission from the WBA that the testing the 1st time around was highly questionable.

3) As has been stated there is a clear conflict of interest with Ryabinsky holding one of the highest administrative positions in Russian boxing while also serving as a Promoter. He has way too much control over **** he should have no involvement in.

4) The lab that delivered the 1st questionable result in the same lab that Wladimir Klitschko outright refused to allow control of testing for his fight with Alexander Povetkin because of the reputation for half baked cheating by the Russians.

5) People are asking what did Ryabinsky have to gain by cancelling? What did Jones have to gain by cheating again? Clearly he was capable of getting to the weight based on his physique and ultimately he is the one who trained and flew halfway around the world for nothing.

6) How can the Russians test Jones without the WBA present - an unauthorized test by any definition - considering the circumstances surrounding the 1st test? Everyone should have been hyper vigilant and observing the strict letter of the law in every aspect of testing. Instead the Russians rushed in to deliver a test that ultimately had no integrity.

7) How can a fighter be drug tested and there not be a B-sample? This is drug testing 101 and any testing lab that doesn't collect a B-sample probably shouldn't even be in business. This is highly su****ious.

The Russians basically came in, tested Jones, found him dirty - then said "well there is no way for you to independently test the results.... sorry!"

This is blatantly dishonest and su****ious.

That's why he wasn't banned by the WBA, the first test gave them reasonable doubt.

Now Jones tests positive for the same thing again from a neutral lab in Switzerland in 2 days.... yea, nope