The Greatness of Wladimir Klitschko

[Suckmedry]

Would anyone bet $$$ on little Joe Frazier against Sam Peter?

I understand siding with the "golden age" gets you pats on the back on internet forums, but would you really bet money on him? I wouldn't.

Theres more of you people.....

I would confidently bet money on Frazier. And I would win. Sam Peter is a C class fighter.

[Fr3$h]

I could see if you believed Frazier would do some damage at LHW or CW but sorry, once you have the guy beating modern HWs you're in Bruce Lee "magical guy who beats everyone because I liked him when I was little" territory.

[Godsfly]

That guy on the video is a blatant racist
You hate Wlad because he is not black but you love Mayweather beside his racist behavior and woman beating tactics.

all yeeeeeeeeea. play the race card when the truth is too hot..........."it's a conspiracy against whites, as a white man i am being discriminated against" "you hate white fighters. you are racist"

dude, get a backbone and shut the **** up. no one gives a **** about your race card victim mentality.......actually learn how to debate and keep the personal feelings to yourself.


when you attack fighters only to try & uplift fighters who have done much less you will get hate. thats a ret@rded thing to do.......


BTW the guy in the video is not racist. in fact he tells it like it is (just because you saw a black guy giving his opinion on the awful performance that wlad gave vs povitkin) doesn't = "racism"


****ing pin stripe circus clown..............

[Godsfly]

Would anyone bet $$$ on little Joe Frazier against Sam Peter?

I understand siding with the "golden age" gets you pats on the back on internet forums, but would you really bet money on him? I wouldn't.

i would bet cash on fraizer actually stopping peter...


peter was horrible........in fact in the first tony fight i picked A old james tony to outbox him (which he did)

WTF are you asking? would joe fraizer stand a chance against sam ****ing peter?

[StarshipTrooper]

I could see if you believed Frazier would do some damage at LHW or CW but sorry, once you have the guy beating modern HWs you're in Bruce Lee "magical guy who beats everyone because I liked him when I was little" territory.

There's nothing magical about the word "modern". And btw, Frazier debuted at 203 which even today would make him a Heavyweight. He never fought anywhere near Light-Heavy.....which was the same then as it is now.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

A lot of idiots posting on this thread..

ATG thread in ******ity

[Weltschmerz]

Theres more of you people.....

I would confidently bet money on Frazier. And I would win. Sam Peter is a C class fighter.

So bet your money on Frazier in fantasy terms, hey man let us have a closer look at Frazier just shortly.

Joe Frazier. In his second fight, Frazier right away gets floored by a dude by the name of Mike Bruce. It was in other words pretty clear that Frazier was chinny, long before facing Foreman.

Result? The Frazier management intends to protect their fighter, which translates into avoiding not few of the heavy hitters we had in the Golden Era. This means Frazier fights a lot of bums while building up his HOF/ATG career, whichever you want it. Frazier then goes on to getting floored by Oscar Bonavena 2 times, almost resulting in a TKO victory for Bonavena. Frazier instead gets a dodgy decision win.

Frazier later fights George Johnson and is handed what many believe is a gift decision after receiving a beating all night by Johnson. Frazier then beats the human punching bag George Chuvalo, as well as Tony Doyle and Marion Conner. In the meantime, Ali has been stripped of his title, but Frazier fails to participate in the 8 man elimination tourney arranged. Instead, Frazier fights the unskilled Buster Mathis and picks up a regional belt. Fast forward to Jerry Quarry, one of Fraziers career best wins.

Then the first Ali fight. Best fighter Frazier ever faced. But Ali was past prime already and was coming back after his long layoff. Ali hardly trained for Frazier on top of this. IMO Ali won the first Frazier fight, but hey, that's just me. Frazier spent 3 weeks in hospital after the fight ffs.

The rest we all know. Destroyed by Foreman twice and convincingly beat by Ali twice more. Fraziers career after the first Ali fight is mildly put unimpressive.

Is this ATG stuff???

[Suckmedry]

So bet your money on Frazier in fantasy terms, hey man let us have a closer look at Frazier just shortly.

Joe Frazier. In his second fight, Frazier right away gets floored by a dude by the name of Mike Bruce. It was in other words pretty clear that Frazier was chinny, long before facing Foreman.

Result? The Frazier management intends to protect their fighter, which translates into avoiding not few of the heavy hitters we had in the Golden Era. This means Frazier fights a lot of bums while building up his HOF/ATG career, whichever you want it. Frazier then goes on to getting floored by Oscar Bonavena 2 times, almost resulting in a TKO victory for Bonavena. Frazier instead gets a dodgy decision win.

Frazier later fights George Johnson and is handed what many believe is a gift decision after receiving a beating all night by Johnson. Frazier then beats the human punching bag George Chuvalo, as well as Tony Doyle and Marion Conner. In the meantime, Ali has been stripped of his title, but Frazier fails to participate in the 8 man elimination tourney arranged. Instead, Frazier fights the unskilled Buster Mathis and picks up a regional belt. Fast forward to Jerry Quarry, one of Fraziers career best wins.

Then the first Ali fight. Best fighter Frazier ever faced. But Ali was past prime already and was coming back after his long layoff. Ali hardly trained for Frazier on top of this. IMO Ali won the first Frazier fight, but hey, that's just me. Frazier spent 3 weeks in hospital after the fight ffs.

The rest we all know. Destroyed by Foreman twice and convincingly beat by Ali twice more. Fraziers career after the first Ali fight is mildly put unimpressive.

Is this ATG stuff???

Yeah, that's just you

Look anyone can take an extremely negative view of any career and put it in a bad light. Drawing the conclusion that Frazier was chinny because of a kd in his 2nd fight is absurd. Wtf is wlad then? He was stopped by 3 average fighters. Frazier was only stopped by foreman, one of the most brutal punchers in history.

[Holywarrior]

Classic Klittards, pull the race card when things don't go their way. Has there ever been a Klitschko nuthugger that isn't an absolute Bellend? Freedom is the only one I can think of

[Suckmedry]

Classic Klittards, pull the race card when things don't go their way. Has there ever been a Klitschko nuthugger that isn't an absolute Bellend? Freedom is the only one I can think of

No, Freedom is loopy as all fck too. Hes toned it down in the last couple years though, but I remember under his old name of "Tunney", he would post some stuff thats almost on this level. Not just boxing related either, he once made a thread about penis size and how he went to a nude beach to look at other guys ****s hes a fruitloop