The Greatness of Wladimir Klitschko

[Boxing Goat]

Did u have a point? I mean would it mean a lot if somebody posted several images of roy jones out cold on a thread about bernard hopkins?

[Kagami Taiga]

Lol, funny thread. Great fighter. Great boxing family. Even greater human beings. Classless idiotic fans tho.

[Boxing Goat]

Says the guy that believes Sam Peter knocks out a prime Joe Frazier....

Keep 'em coming.

You're getting some help from Red Cyclone on this one, but I don't think you need it to be honest. You seem more than capable of giving us some incredibly sig worthy efforts all by your lonesome.

Nothing here of any substance worth commenting on so......

[Boxing Goat]

Ok ladies and gentlemen, here we have the logic of delusion.

Sam Peter is a better win than Joe Frazier because Joe Frazier only beat the consensus greatest heavyweight of all time, while Sam Peter beat Oleg Maskeav and former middleweight champion James Toney.

****! You're right! That proves it!

Oh, by the way, you wanna know why Sam Peter outweighs Frazier.....

http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/332/Samuel-Peter27.jpg

That's why.

But, that's besides the point. What matters is whether someone is great, good, or mediocre. Peter proved to be a smidge better than mediocre and that's being generous.

A ****e, fat, weak, feather fisted Eddie Chambers beat Sam Peter and he was one of these 'small' heavyweights you keep raving about and he had no power at all. He owned Peter, so size or power isn't going to mean **** when you're just not very good. You think someone who hit ten times harder, had ten times the stamina, was just as fast, and was simply ten times better would have much trouble? Anyway, Frazier beat enough top big men who were as big or bigger than Peter, so your point is obsolete either way.

Having ten extra pounds of fat doesn't help. It makes you slower, have less stamina, which means less power, and makes you easier to hit and then hurt.

I'm sure before Haye moved up to heavyweight, you'd also have argued that Chisora was a big, proper heavyweight and that Haye would stand no chance against a real heavyweight who's so much bigger. Well, we all saw what happened there and Chisora's fat didn't help him. Or what about when Haye fought the 7 foot giant? Size doesn't matter when you're better and thats a nice 'modern' colour TV version for you to digest. No nostalgia needed.

The only thing Toney got schooled on from Peter was rabbit punching. Toney won that first fight clearly, well by any unbiased standard anyway.

It just hit me....I'm actually responding to people that think Sam Peter is better than Joe Frazier, a better win on a record than Joe Frazier, has better wins/greater career than Joe Frazier and would knock him out if they were to meet prime for prime. What has become of my life and this place that I'm even responding to such lame, ignorant, pitiful buffoonery....

I feel a whole lot ******er just for reading these ****eful posts.

Did we somehow miss when I explained that peter was shot after getting abused by vitali or was that selective comprehension again?

[BennyST]

You seem to do a lot of talking about physical shape why don't you post a picture of yourself If you're any better off.


Joe Frazier was knocked down by Mike Bunce a feather fisted bum who has only 10 wins but 30 losses, atleast Eddie Chambers was a real heavyweight and if you actually took the time to watch the Eddie Chambers vs Samuel Peters fight you'd realize the 'fat' boxer Peters was the more active through the entire fight and the fight was alot closer than an absolute beating...
Why don't you watch fights instead of hunting them up on boxrec?
And to also note Chambers weighed in at 230lbs... Whilst Frazier prime weight was 205 - 215lbs
Try again

Proves once again the idiotic nostalgia ******s don't know much about the heavyweight division, simple put if you don't watch the current division don't compare with the past.

Is that a joke?

What in the **** are you even talking about?

Seriously you thick ****, make some ****ing sense! What the hell do I give a **** about proving myself to you you ****ing **** of a twat. Post a photo? What the actual ****?

Was I claiming myself to be an elite level, world class athlete and heavyweight boxer?

Hey, why don't we meet for a street fight too while we're at it?

Jesus H Christ.....Am I talking to an imbecilic 13 year old? "Yo bro! Let's post pics of our pecs and biceps on the intranet to compare huh"

You're ****ting on Frazier for being too small and too in shape to beat Sam Peter. Sam Peter is fat for an elite level heavyweight boxer. That's why he weighs more....that's why we were talking about 'in shape'. Get it?

You just proved it by posting up a photo of a fat middleweight next to a fat heavyweight. Thanks for proving my earlier point though.

Thanks for also showing that Sam Peter got beaten by a small, out of shape, fat middleweight....while you try to prove that an undisputed ATG prime heavyweight couldn't handle the size. This guy writes his own replies for me.

So Eddie Chambers is a 'real' heavyweight at 220, not 230, pounds, with a massive layer of fat around his gut while Frazier is a midget at 215 pounds of lean muscle? Again, thanks for helping me out, I had forgotten how small Chambers was for such a fat bastard. He also beat Peter btw.

[Boxing Goat]

Lol, funny thread. Great fighter. Great boxing family. Even greater human beings. Classless idiotic fans tho.

So fans who back up their idols against haters and naysayers are just classless idiots because they dont share popular opinions?

You have a narrow minded point of view.

[billeau2]

I've already stated fact, Joe Frazier is a bum and Samuel Peters would KO him...
If a slow plodding Foreman can do it so can Peters, Frazier is a cruiserweight at best...
Joke of a division not even a real heavyweight lol

Slow and plodding unlike that speed demon Peter. I guess Ali is a bum also, when compared to a real heavyweight like one of the klits....yes? You guys make about as much sense as a herring exporter in Amsterdam...or a guy who goes to Zabar's and orders a bologni sandwich.

[billeau2]

Ok ladies and gentlemen, here we have the logic of delusion.

Sam Peter is a better win than Joe Frazier because Joe Frazier only beat the consensus greatest heavyweight of all time, while Sam Peter beat Oleg Maskeav and former middleweight champion James Toney.

****! You're right! That proves it!

Oh, by the way, you wanna know why Sam Peter outweighs Frazier.....

http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/332/Samuel-Peter27.jpg

That's why.

But, that's besides the point. What matters is whether someone is great, good, or mediocre. Peter proved to be a smidge better than mediocre and that's being generous.

A ****e, fat, weak, feather fisted Eddie Chambers beat Sam Peter and he was one of these 'small' heavyweights you keep raving about and he had no power at all. He owned Peter, so size or power isn't going to mean **** when you're just not very good. You think someone who hit ten times harder, had ten times the stamina, was just as fast, and was simply ten times better would have much trouble? Anyway, Frazier beat enough top big men who were as big or bigger than Peter, so your point is obsolete either way.

Having ten extra pounds of fat doesn't help. It makes you slower, have less stamina, which means less power, and makes you easier to hit and then hurt.

I'm sure before Haye moved up to heavyweight, you'd also have argued that Chisora was a big, proper heavyweight and that Haye would stand no chance against a real heavyweight who's so much bigger. Well, we all saw what happened there and Chisora's fat didn't help him. Or what about when Haye fought the 7 foot giant? Size doesn't matter when you're better and thats a nice 'modern' colour TV version for you to digest. No nostalgia needed.

The only thing Toney got schooled on from Peter was rabbit punching. Toney won that first fight clearly, well by any unbiased standard anyway.

It just hit me....I'm actually responding to people that think Sam Peter is better than Joe Frazier, a better win on a record than Joe Frazier, has better wins/greater career than Joe Frazier and would knock him out if they were to meet prime for prime. What has become of my life and this place that I'm even responding to such lame, ignorant, pitiful buffoonery....

I feel a whole lot ******er just for reading these ****eful posts.

No Benny I have to correct you on Chambers...You see because the extra weight has evolved all modern heavyweights even the smaller guys are better...they know how to punch now unlike in the days of Foreman. Why if we were to put chambers in the ring with Louis he would dwarf Louis and make a mockery of the man.....

Geez If Goat does not get out of mamas basement soon we all are going to experience massive IQ loss!

[BennyST]

No Benny I have to correct you on Chambers...You see because the extra weight has evolved all modern heavyweights even the smaller guys are better...they know how to punch now unlike in the days of Foreman. Why if we were to put chambers in the ring with Louis he would dwarf Louis and make a mockery of the man.....

Geez If Goat does not get out of mamas basement soon we all are going to experience massive IQ loss!

I already have and I think it's infectious.....

I just caught myself licking a picture of Wlad and raving mindlessly about racism, heavyweight midgets and nostalgia. I felt an empty kind of blackness in my head, with this light at the end and the words "flashy flash" going around and around in my head like a dream. Luckily I snapped out of it back to reality when my wife saw me start ******* off to Wlads pecs and smacked me upside the head.

[M Bison]

Slow and plodding unlike that speed demon Peter. I guess Ali is a bum also, when compared to a real heavyweight like one of the klits....yes? You guys make about as much sense as a herring exporter in Amsterdam...or a guy who goes to Zabar's and orders a bologni sandwich.

Can't take the criticism to your fanboy favourites then don't give it out

You can really tell the real boxing fans from the fake ones smh