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  • #61
    Wlad's best wins are Haye and Povetkin. Haye's best wins are Ruiz and Valuev, and has had more cancelled fights than actual fights. Povetkin went life and death with Huck, a limited CW.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by slimshandy69 View Post
      joe Louis would get smashed by wlad.

      George forman??? He was meant to be a monster but in reality was the same height and weight as Haye was.

      Wlad is simply the best heavyweight ever from a stylistic point of view. he has boxing on lock down. He has mastered it to the point of footwork, distance and punch accuracy.

      iTS A PLEASURE TO WATCH HIM FIGHT.
      Now we all know that's a lie.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
        Do you consider Haye an A level fighter? How many A level fighters did Ali fight?
        Sonny Liston
        Floyd Patterson
        Kenny Norton
        Joe Frazier
        Bob Foster
        George Foreman
        Archie Moore (extremely aged)
        Larry Holmes (past his prime)

        Ali's defeated multiple Hall of Famers on top of worthy contenders, it's not a comparison.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by GeneralZod View Post
          Sonny Liston
          Floyd Patterson
          Kenny Norton
          Joe Frazier
          Bob Foster
          George Foreman
          Archie Moore (extremely aged)
          Larry Holmes (past his prime)

          Ali's defeated multiple Hall of Famers on top of worthy contenders, it's not a comparison.
          Floyd Patterson...
          Joe Frazier...
          Bob Foster...
          Archie Moore...

          Grade A fighters...?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by GeneralZod View Post
            Sonny Liston
            Floyd Patterson
            Kenny Norton
            Joe Frazier
            Bob Foster
            George Foreman
            Archie Moore (extremely aged)
            Larry Holmes (past his prime)

            Ali's defeated multiple Hall of Famers on top of worthy contenders, it's not a comparison.
            Patterson had skills, but he was a light heavyweight and would be nowhere near HW status today.

            The only fighter you list I would consider A level is Larry Holmes.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
              Patterson had skills, but he was a light heavyweight and would be nowhere near HW status today.

              The only fighter you list I would consider A level is Larry Holmes.
              why wouldn´t he be anywhere near hw status? all he has to do is eat 1000 pies like leapai and he could make 250.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by daggum View Post
                why wouldn´t he be anywhere near hw status? all he has to do is eat 1000 pies like leapai and he could make 250.
                A diet created by Chris Arreola - the best American HW.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
                  Wladimir Klitschko is just quite simply the greatest heavyweight boxer to ever grace the division and we've been so lucky in this era to witness the sheer greatness of Wladimir and Vitali.
                  Wladimir set the new standard of complete and utter dominance and in todays age where training in boxing is took more seriously with proper nutritional experts to help these professional athletes reach a physical standard far more superior to the likes of those from many years ago.

                  Wlad is the modern Joe Louis of boxing and possibly can be considered the greatest boxer of all time, I now demand the P4P ranking to be re-altered and for Wladimir to be the number one P4P fighter... thank you.
                  While Wlad is great, he's not even close to Joe Louis and no nutrition and training is not taken more seriously. It's relatively the same. Food didn't become healthier, in fact it got worse.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Japanese Boxing View Post
                    While Wlad is great, he's not even close to Joe Louis and no nutrition and training is not taken more seriously. It's relatively the same. Food didn't become healthier, in fact it got worse.
                    Joe Frazier isn't even an A class fighter and he wouldn't stand a chance against a guy like Vitali and Wladimir...
                    Joe Frazier would probably get brutalized in 3 rounds by Mike Tyson aswell, he's been knocked about by small non-punching heavyweights before and his best win is beating a Muhammad Ali after a long spell of inactivity.

                    Sports evolve not devolve sooner people accept that and stop holding onto that nostalgia boner the better...
                    Do you really think Muhammad Ali would be able to rope-a-dope against either Wlad or Vitali?
                    NO... they wouldn't tire, prime for prime these two heavyweights are arguably the most tactically sound heavyweights we have ever seen to grace the division.

                    Tactically inept would be allowing your opponent to punch your face for several rounds in hope they tire...

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                    • #70
                      says a lot for him to dominate HW with a found out glass jaw
                      Steward got him ground into a style that makes him invulnerable
                      nobody can get to him with heavy punches, so they have no chance
                      Wlad's too tall, long in reach, and skilled to be outboxed at HW
                      add in 1 punch power in both hands and you've got a beast
                      people whined for a couple yrs post Lewis they needed a real HW champ
                      the one we have hasn't and won't go anywhere until he's simply too old

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